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Notes from Day After End of the Regular Season, Including Possible Bowls

Time off, bowl possibilities, and injury updates all part of the news with Oklahoma State football the day after the end of the regular season.
December 13, 2020
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STILLWATER – By 2 p.m. on Sunday afternoon the West End Zone and the Oklahoma State football offices were emptying out. The snow was coming down pretty strong. Offensive coordinator Kasey Dunn coming off the season high output for the Cowboys offense of 608-yards and 7.9-yards a snap, was taking the afternoon off as was Cowboys senior analyst Chris Thurmond. Head coach Mike Gundy had also left the building.

“I haven’t had an afternoon off in a long time, so I’m heading home,” Gundy told me.

The players had already been in for the day after the game check-in with the training and medical staff. No weightlifting or meetings after the 42-3 win in Waco over Baylor on Saturday. The team will next practice on Thursday with an emphasis early on working the younger players and getting them reps in the Cowboys base offense and defense, while the starters continue to take it easy before knowing exactly what the assignment is for the bowl game.

The Bowl Game

What do we know about the bowl game? Not a lot at this stage. The Florida loss to LSU on Saturday night means the SEC won’t have two College Football Playoff teams, but they should have two New Year’s Six bowl selections in Florida and Texas A&M. Alabama will be in the CFP. The ACC is possible for two CFP selections, but with the North Carolina win over Miami, Fla. Is less likely for a New Year’s Six extra. Notre Dame and Clemson should eat up two selections. The Big Ten and Pac-12 will get a combination of three teams and there is the Group of Five selection, probably Cincinnati or Tulsa or Coastal Carolina. That is nine selections of the 12 spots. The Big 12 with Iowa State and Oklahoma playing in the Big 12 Championship Game will be interesting and the question is can both get in for a New Year’s Six assignment?

If they do, we believe that Texas goes back to the Alamo Bowl. The Cheez-It Bowl in Orlando could take Oklahoma State to play an ACC opponent, possibly Miami, Fla. or the belief is they are interested in West Virginia. That would mean the Texas Bowl and yes, they would have Oklahoma State back against an SEC foe, possibly Arkansas.

If the Big 12 Championship losing team goes to the Alamo, then our sources believe Texas will go to the Cheez-It Bowl in Orlando. Oklahoma State would be in the Texas Bowl, again against Arkansas.

It looks like one of two options:

Cheez-It Bowl in Orlando – Oklahoma State vs. Miami, Fla.

Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl – Oklahoma State vs. Arkansas

Injury Update

Really sad aspect of the win over Baylor was the injury to sophomore defensive end Trace Ford. Ford in trying to turn the corner on the pass rush while tied up with the offensive line and the replay of that play showed the torque on his right knee that doctors say can do damage. He will have an MRI, but the medical staff is fearing that he has a torn ACL. Ford is not just a good player, but a great example of what a student athlete should be. The hope is he will have less of an injury than feared and that either way he will have a good outcome and excellent recovery.

This season, Ford has 15 unassisted tackles, seven assisted stops for a total of 22 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, four passes defended, five quarterback hurries, and two fumbles forced, one in the Baylor game.

Neither safety Tre Sterling or running back LD Brown played in the Baylor game but both were suited up. They should both be available for a bowl game. Receiver Tylan Wallace did not make the trip to Waco but he is still with the team. It is not expected that senior cornerback Rodarius Williams will play again this season. Head coach Mike Gundy added running back Chuba Hubbard to the list with offensive tackle Teven Jenkins of players that have opted out of the rest of the season.

Several players reported that Jenkins was in the stands at McLane Stadium for the win over Baylor. We did not see him, but there were multiple reports that he was there.

Defense was Outstanding

The offense had its’ best game statistically of the season. The defense was the same allowing only 156-yards, 70-yards rushing and 86-yards passing. Baylor averaged 2.4-yards per play and they were 4-of-17 on third downs.

“I’m just happy that we’re building a defensive culture here to match the offensive culture that we’ve had,” defensive coordinator Jim Knowles said calmly after the near shut out dominant effort. “You saw today that when we get both sides playing at that rate, we’re really tough to beat.”

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Notes from Day After End of the Regular Season, Including Possible Bowls

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Calpoke
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How can Arkansas play in a bowl with a 3 - 7 record?
CaliforniaCowboy
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Calpoke said:

How can Arkansas play in a bowl with a 3 - 7 record?
I haven't heard, but they probably dropped the 6 win requirement when they thought half the teams were not going to play their seasons.

The SEC has like 10 contracts or some such, and they have 4 teams projected into the top 6 bowl games.

The SEC is simply hoping that COVID makes some other conference's teams cancel so they can get all of their team into a bowl game.

CaliforniaCowboy
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here, I looked it up....

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2020/10/14/ncaa-waives-college-football-bowl-win-eligibility-requirement/3656916001/
Zach Lancaster
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I was just about to reply that every team this season is bowl eligible, which I find dumb because I already think there's too many bowl games lol but hey, 2020 right?
CaliforniaCowboy
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Zach Lancaster said:

I was just about to reply that every team this season is bowl eligible, which I find dumb because I already think there's too many bowl games lol but hey, 2020 right?
1) there can never be to many opportunities to reward players and fans for their efforts.... statements about too many are short sighted and selfish. If folks don't like them, they do not have to watch (or report).

2) 11 games canceled so far - so is there really too many this year?

Here is the list of 2020-21 bowl games that have been canceled:
  • Bahamas Bowl (C-USA vs. MAC)
  • Celebration Bowl (MEAC vs. SWAC)
  • Fenway Bowl (AAC vs. ACC)
  • Hawaii Bowl (AAC vs. Mountain West)
  • Holiday Bowl (ACC vs. Pac-12)
  • Las Vegas Bowl (Pac-12 vs. SEC)
  • Los Angeles Bowl (Pac-12 vs. Mountain West)
  • Pinstripe Bowl (ACC vs. Big Ten)
  • Quick Lane Bowl (ACC, Big Ten, MAC)
  • Redbox Bowl (Big Ten vs. Pac-12)
  • Sun Bowl (ACC vs. Pac-12)
Danny Deck
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It isn't the number of bowls that's the problem. It's the tie-ins. Prioritize matchups instead.
Marshall Levenson
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Due to COVID, like every team will be eligible.
CaliforniaCowboy
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it should go by wins...... meaning if there is a 5 or 6 win team from any other conference, they should be invited before Arkansas.

I'm okay with relaxing the win requirement this year, but they should still take available teams based on wins.

NorthDFWPoke
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I think only restriction on bowls is the APR requirements this year
CaliforniaCowboy
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NorthDFWPoke said:

I think only restriction on bowls is the APR requirements this year
yeah, I was just saying I'd rather we not play as opposed to playing a 3-win team, that only got in because of the league that they play in.

I would much rather play a good team.
Joe Khatib
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Crazy Covid 2020, please get 2020 out of here ASAP and bring on 2021
Bovine Lad
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Quote:

"I haven't had an afternoon off in a long time, so I'm heading home," Gundy told me.

2020 Attrition

{From the Roster at the beginning of the year (Jan. 1, 2020)} Returning Starters, Starters, and/or projected Starters that did not play at Baylor and/or that will not play in the Bowl game for one reason or another ("Outs"):

- Dylan Galloway, LOT (didn't start the preseason)
- Bryce Bray, ROG
- Tevin Jenkins, ROT
- Cole Birmingham, ROG (?)
- Jacob Farrell, OT
- Chuba Hubbard, RB
- LD Brown, RB
- Rodarius Williams, CB
- Trace Ford, DE
- Tre Sterling, S
- Alex Hale, K
- Tom Hutton, P

Bovine Lad
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Joe Khatib said:

Crazy Covid 2020, please get 2020 out of here ASAP and bring on 2021
With the departures of Tylan Wallace, Tevin Jenkins, Chuba Hubbard, Rodarius Williams, and only the good Lord knows how many others, specifically, what are you looking forward to in 2021?

A season without any preseason "All" types?

Looking forward to next seasons Bedlam?
Bovine Lad
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With the anticipated China-Virus restrictions on travel, activities, and attendance at Bowls -- in light of all of the players opting out of Bowl participation -- if not for the Fans and Players, then for whom and for what again? {rhetorical (TV $)}

Who doesn't get excited about the Bowl matchup between the 3-6 Florida State Seminoles and the 2-4 Michigan Wolverines in the Nancy's Nail Salon Recruiting Star Bowl in Kellogg, Idaho!?

If you're among the multitudes of those planning on attending, don't forget to mask and distance while there.

If you're going to enjoy the game on TV in your own home, be sure and do it alone and with a mask on. Outdoor tailgating on private property limited to 2 distanced people and expressly prohibited everywhere else.

No indoor dining! Outdoor cooking prohibited!
Bovine Lad
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Bovine Lad said:

Joe Khatib said:

Crazy Covid 2020, please get 2020 out of here ASAP and bring on 2021
With the departures of Tylan Wallace, Tevin Jenkins, Chuba Hubbard, Rodarius Williams, and only the good Lord knows how many others, specifically, what are you looking forward to in 2021?

A season without any preseason "All" types?

Looking forward to next seasons Bedlam?
If you're not eagerly looking forward to next years Bedlam, then you've already written us off for Big 12 Title contention.

If not Big 12 Title contention (and necessarily not BCS Championship contention), then for what? Yet another disappointing embrace of the mediocrity of boastfully comparing ourselves to the probation-reconstruction pre-BPS "Rust Bowl" days or to woeful Kansas?

Without Bedlam hope, there's not even a glimmer.

In the wake of the Iron Bowl beatdown, Auburn fired Gus Malzahn the other day. Malzahn went 3-5 versus Alabama in his 8 seasons at Auburn. Including Malzahn's losing Iron Bowl record, Auburn is 10-10 versus the Crimson Tide this decade. They maintain hope. Beating their in-State rival is a big thing to them and to their coaches or their coaches are no longer part of them.
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Bovine Lad said:

With the anticipated China-Virus restrictions on travel, activities, and attendance at Bowls -- in light of all of the players opting out of Bowl participation -- if not for the Fans and Players, then for whom and for what again? {rhetorical (TV $)}

Who doesn't get excited about the Bowl matchup between the 3-6 Florida State Seminoles and the 2-4 Michigan Wolverines in the Nancy's Nail Salon Recruiting Star Bowl in Kellogg, Idaho!?

If you're among the multitudes of those planning on attending, don't forget to mask and distance while there.

If you're going to enjoy the game on TV in your own home, be sure and do it alone and with a mask on. Outdoor tailgating on private property limited to 2 distanced people and expressly prohibited everywhere else.

No indoor dining! Outdoor cooking prohibited!
COVID-19.....Sanitizing your hands? Wearing a face mask when you are out? Socially distancing? Many are in the "acceptable collateral damage" demographic. 300,000+ dead Americans and hospitals overrun indicate somewhat of a problem with the biggest health disaster in U. S. history. I noticed it did not end in November like predicted. Are you going to get vaccinated? I appreciate your hilarious comments weaving OSU sports in with politics, sickness and death. Keep beating a dead Bullet! GO POKES!!! BEAT TCU!!
TUSKAPOKE
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Joe Khatib said:

Crazy Covid 2020, please get 2020 out of here ASAP and bring on 2021
AMEN!!!
Bovine Lad
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TUSKAPOKE said:

Bovine Lad said:

With the anticipated China-Virus restrictions on travel, activities, and attendance at Bowls -- in light of all of the players opting out of Bowl participation -- if not for the Fans and Players, then for whom and for what again? {rhetorical (TV $)}

Who doesn't get excited about the Bowl matchup between the 3-6 Florida State Seminoles and the 2-4 Michigan Wolverines in the Nancy's Nail Salon Recruiting Star Bowl in Kellogg, Idaho!?

If you're among the multitudes of those planning on attending, don't forget to mask and distance while there.

If you're going to enjoy the game on TV in your own home, be sure and do it alone and with a mask on. Outdoor tailgating on private property limited to 2 distanced people and expressly prohibited everywhere else.

No indoor dining! Outdoor cooking prohibited!
COVID-19.....Sanitizing your hands? Wearing a face mask when you are out? Socially distancing? Many are in the "acceptable collateral damage" demographic. 300,000+ dead Americans and hospitals overrun indicate somewhat of a problem with the biggest health disaster in U. S. history. I noticed it did not end in November like predicted. Are you going to get vaccinated? I appreciate your hilarious comments weaving OSU sports in with politics, sickness and death. Keep beating a dead Bullet! GO POKES!!! BEAT TCU!!
Help me out with the math if you will; 300,000 is what percent of 300,000,000?

300,000 is how much less than the 2,200,000 that the CDC initially told us would die?

BTW, Bullet ain't dead.
TUSKAPOKE
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Bovine Lad said:

TUSKAPOKE said:

Bovine Lad said:

With the anticipated China-Virus restrictions on travel, activities, and attendance at Bowls -- in light of all of the players opting out of Bowl participation -- if not for the Fans and Players, then for whom and for what again? {rhetorical (TV $)}

Who doesn't get excited about the Bowl matchup between the 3-6 Florida State Seminoles and the 2-4 Michigan Wolverines in the Nancy's Nail Salon Recruiting Star Bowl in Kellogg, Idaho!?

If you're among the multitudes of those planning on attending, don't forget to mask and distance while there.

If you're going to enjoy the game on TV in your own home, be sure and do it alone and with a mask on. Outdoor tailgating on private property limited to 2 distanced people and expressly prohibited everywhere else.

No indoor dining! Outdoor cooking prohibited!
COVID-19.....Sanitizing your hands? Wearing a face mask when you are out? Socially distancing? Many are in the "acceptable collateral damage" demographic. 300,000+ dead Americans and hospitals overrun indicate somewhat of a problem with the biggest health disaster in U. S. history. I noticed it did not end in November like predicted. Are you going to get vaccinated? I appreciate your hilarious comments weaving OSU sports in with politics, sickness and death. Keep beating a dead Bullet! GO POKES!!! BEAT TCU!!
Help me out with the math if you will; 300,000 is what percent of 300,000,000?

300,000 is how much less than the 2,200,000 that the CDC initially told us would die?

BTW, Bullet ain't dead.
It ain't over yet...well on our way! Everything is wonderful, right? Do you know any of those 300,000 like I do? POTUS Trump declared this a "Virus War" so each death is a war death.....300,000+ is as much as the category 'other deaths in theater" of all U. S. wars combined. I would think that is significant. Many unnecessary because of stupidity in denying science and selfish people unwilling to help fight the war. Thanks for your inciteful and thoughtful comments about "acceptable collateral damage" of Americans. Do you have holiday plans for multi-generational gatherings? Here is something for your perspective on U. S. war deaths so you can compare to the 2020 COVID-19 War.....

https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/factsheets/fs_americas_wars.pdf

KEEP BEATING THAT DEAD BULLET!!! GO POKES!!!

CaliforniaCowboy
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TUSKAPOKE said:

Bovine Lad said:

TUSKAPOKE said:

Bovine Lad said:

With the anticipated China-Virus restrictions on travel, activities, and attendance at Bowls -- in light of all of the players opting out of Bowl participation -- if not for the Fans and Players, then for whom and for what again? {rhetorical (TV $)}

Who doesn't get excited about the Bowl matchup between the 3-6 Florida State Seminoles and the 2-4 Michigan Wolverines in the Nancy's Nail Salon Recruiting Star Bowl in Kellogg, Idaho!?

If you're among the multitudes of those planning on attending, don't forget to mask and distance while there.

If you're going to enjoy the game on TV in your own home, be sure and do it alone and with a mask on. Outdoor tailgating on private property limited to 2 distanced people and expressly prohibited everywhere else.

No indoor dining! Outdoor cooking prohibited!
COVID-19.....Sanitizing your hands? Wearing a face mask when you are out? Socially distancing? Many are in the "acceptable collateral damage" demographic. 300,000+ dead Americans and hospitals overrun indicate somewhat of a problem with the biggest health disaster in U. S. history. I noticed it did not end in November like predicted. Are you going to get vaccinated? I appreciate your hilarious comments weaving OSU sports in with politics, sickness and death. Keep beating a dead Bullet! GO POKES!!! BEAT TCU!!
Help me out with the math if you will; 300,000 is what percent of 300,000,000?

300,000 is how much less than the 2,200,000 that the CDC initially told us would die?

BTW, Bullet ain't dead.
It ain't over yet...well on our way! Everything is wonderful, right? Do you know any of those 300,000 like I do? POTUS Trump declared this a "Virus War" so each death is a war death.....300,000+ is as much as the category 'other deaths in theater" of all U. S. wars combined. I would think that is significant. Many unnecessary because of stupidity in denying science and selfish people unwilling to help fight the war. Thanks for your inciteful and thoughtful comments about "acceptable collateral damage" of Americans. Do you have holiday plans for multi-generational gatherings? Here is something for your perspective on U. S. war deaths so you can compare to the 2020 COVID-19 War.....

https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/factsheets/fs_americas_wars.pdf

KEEP BEATING THAT DEAD BULLET!!! GO POKES!!!


stop with the bickering and half truths..... "died in theater", is a cherry picked number.

WWII American deaths were comparable to this pandemic (IN THE USA - not worldwide, in which WWII was much, much more deadly than COVID).

Not to make light of any of it.... I'm just saying that your retorts are as bad or worse than those of BOVINE.... and they need to stop already.


World War II has been the bloodiest war in human history, killing over 60 million people (1.6 mil for covid). This means that around 3 percent of the entire 1939 world population died in the war.

Nobody has exact figures, but it is estimated that around the U.S. counted around 407,000 military deaths and around 12,000 civilian deaths (due to crimes of war and military activity such as bombings.) The total death count for all Americans amounted up to 420,000. (FOR ONE WAR)


It's horrible that we have to weed through the nonsensical posts of BOVINE, and it's DOUBLY horrible that we then have to wade through your insufferable retorts.

I"m asking you to stop, because I believe that you are the more reasonable and possibly care about the rest of us.


TUSKAPOKE
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CaliforniaCowboy said:

TUSKAPOKE said:

Bovine Lad said:

TUSKAPOKE said:

Bovine Lad said:

With the anticipated China-Virus restrictions on travel, activities, and attendance at Bowls -- in light of all of the players opting out of Bowl participation -- if not for the Fans and Players, then for whom and for what again? {rhetorical (TV $)}

Who doesn't get excited about the Bowl matchup between the 3-6 Florida State Seminoles and the 2-4 Michigan Wolverines in the Nancy's Nail Salon Recruiting Star Bowl in Kellogg, Idaho!?

If you're among the multitudes of those planning on attending, don't forget to mask and distance while there.

If you're going to enjoy the game on TV in your own home, be sure and do it alone and with a mask on. Outdoor tailgating on private property limited to 2 distanced people and expressly prohibited everywhere else.

No indoor dining! Outdoor cooking prohibited!
COVID-19.....Sanitizing your hands? Wearing a face mask when you are out? Socially distancing? Many are in the "acceptable collateral damage" demographic. 300,000+ dead Americans and hospitals overrun indicate somewhat of a problem with the biggest health disaster in U. S. history. I noticed it did not end in November like predicted. Are you going to get vaccinated? I appreciate your hilarious comments weaving OSU sports in with politics, sickness and death. Keep beating a dead Bullet! GO POKES!!! BEAT TCU!!
Help me out with the math if you will; 300,000 is what percent of 300,000,000?

300,000 is how much less than the 2,200,000 that the CDC initially told us would die?

BTW, Bullet ain't dead.
It ain't over yet...well on our way! Everything is wonderful, right? Do you know any of those 300,000 like I do? POTUS Trump declared this a "Virus War" so each death is a war death.....300,000+ is as much as the category 'other deaths in theater" of all U. S. wars combined. I would think that is significant. Many unnecessary because of stupidity in denying science and selfish people unwilling to help fight the war. Thanks for your inciteful and thoughtful comments about "acceptable collateral damage" of Americans. Do you have holiday plans for multi-generational gatherings? Here is something for your perspective on U. S. war deaths so you can compare to the 2020 COVID-19 War.....

https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/factsheets/fs_americas_wars.pdf

KEEP BEATING THAT DEAD BULLET!!! GO POKES!!!


stop with the bickering and half truths..... "died in theater", is a cherry picked number.

WWII American deaths were comparable to this pandemic (IN THE USA - not worldwide, in which WWII was much, much more deadly than COVID).

Not to make light of any of it.... I'm just saying that your retorts are as bad or worse than those of BOVINE.... and they need to stop already.


World War II has been the bloodiest war in human history, killing over 60 million people (1.6 mil for covid). This means that around 3 percent of the entire 1939 world population died in the war.

Nobody has exact figures, but it is estimated that around the U.S. counted around 407,000 military deaths and around 12,000 civilian deaths (due to crimes of war and military activity such as bombings.) The total death count for all Americans amounted up to 420,000. (FOR ONE WAR)


It's horrible that we have to weed through the nonsensical posts of BOVINE, and it's DOUBLY horrible that we then have to wade through your insufferable retorts.

I"m asking you to stop, because I believe that you are the more reasonable and possibly care about the rest of us.



Glad you read my retorts. I will post more as needed...doubly maybe. Did you follow the link I provided? The link provides the statistics you seem to provide. My source is the Dept. of Veterans Affairs. That is how 308,800 deaths are listed. Cherry picked?

Well, my retorts give you something to do as it appears you like to post a bunch and much more than me. As I indicated last night, it is a forum. No one forces you to read my retorts or indicates you have to read them or respond to them. Seems like it gives you something to research and then show us your diligence. I ignore most of your posts as you should my retorts since they seem to bother you some.

Thanks for considering me possibly reasonable but it seems my positions somewhat rubs some the wrong way. That is a two way street. I only respond to balance the discussion. You inspire me to post more to become a "Veteran" poster like you.

Did you listen to the win over OU? I enjoyed the game. Always good to beat the Sooners. GO POKES!!!! RUN BULLET!!!
CanadianCowboy
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OK, enough with the political commentary on a sports thread on a sports message board.
Zach Lancaster
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Yep. just about to say what Canadian said, y'all have had your 'fun' and it's now over. No more politics, ESPECIALLY if it pertains to the 2020 election and COVID. We value everyone on this site and are very appreciative that you're all here, but we need to keep politics off the message boards.
TUSKAPOKE
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Thanks Zach....I agree. I appreciate the opportunity to participate and will abide, like the Dude, and will watch and point out when others do not. I will bring that to your attention so you can remind them and I will not comment unless it goes unchecked. Thanks again. The new site is fun and you are doing a great job. Glad it basically is "in-house" now.
Zach Lancaster
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Certainly appreciate the cooperation! We're really excited about this new opportunity and are glad it's basically in-house for us to control virtually every aspect. We're happy that you and everyone else is with us here at Pokes Report and hope we can make it the best Oklahoma State site for everyone!
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