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Offensive Review: Sanders Was Going to Play, Cowboys Needed More in Run Game

October 16, 2022
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STILLWATER – When a team loses that first game it seems just about everything winds out of sorts a little. Wins can so often be summarized with a few performances or tactics but loses have to be put under a microscope and viewed from every unit and every angle. That was the case with the Cowboys 43-40 overtime loss to TCU in Fort Worth. The simple explanation is this was a game between two unbeaten and talented teams, and one just got by the other. That is way too simple and neither you, nor I are going be satisfied with that.

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Sanders was certainly looking healthy and well on this first touchdown run.

Let’s start with the widely speculated status of Spencer Sanders. Rumors abounded on how serious Sanders was injured and whether he would play or not. Responsible media, kept on the outside as most are by major college programs and head coaches, simply stated the rumors mostly on their social media and waited to find the truth. Then, there were a few that had to come out with the version that Sanders had not practiced all week and was out. In the end that is the tactic that tells everybody you have little or no credibility as a reporter. Then there are a few that have some advantages and when it was time had the story and had it correct. No rumors.

Sanders had been at practice all week, his participation was limited by injury, but he prepared. He got excellent treatment from the medical staff and as he projected even a week ago in a saucy manner and as Gundy had suggested, Sanders played and played well. Late in the game, he showed signs of being diminished but TCU’s defense and the way they were able to play the Oklahoma State offense had something to do with it.  

“It’s football, and I’ve practiced a lot,” Sanders said of his preparation during the week.

“They are a good football team, we know that,” Gundy told me in the locker room. “The tough part of this is that we played well enough to win the game. We played better defensively than I thought we would, playing them here. They are pretty high-powered right now. They got some yards, but we forced them to kick field goals. Our inability to rush the football makes us one-dimensional. I think we averaged 3.6-yards per rush, and they averaged five and a half per rush.”

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John Paul Richardson with this spectacular touchdown catch was the most dependable OSU receiver.

TCU was able to play a light box and they were successful in completely taking away Bryson Green as they smothered him in bracket-style coverage. Sanders was able to hit most of his other receivers and the Cowboys had some special plays packed for the trip including the flea flicker that set up the first touchdown that saw Cowboy back Braden Cassity go down the numbers all alone. Another deep ball to Jake Schultz was incomplete. John Paul Richardson was excellent catching five of the seven balls targeted to him. Brennan Presley was clutch as usual, and Dominic Richardson came up huge in the passing game, much better than the run game. Braydon Johnson had some big plays but had several others he could have made and wasn’t able to tuck away.

“When you just needed to try and piecemeal some yards together and get drives, we just weren’t able to do it,” Dunn said, not necessarily meaning any particular play or facet of the offense.

“They’ve got a heck of a defense, good linebackers and big DBs,” Richardson. “We fought our butts off and the offensive line did great, Spencer did great, the receivers, but in the end we didn’t get enough.”

The box counts were favorable to running the ball much of the time, similar to the way Oklahoma State’s defense played the TCU offense, but the Cowboys couldn’t run the ball. In a few carries in the late third quarter Jaden Nixon came in and had a couple of productive runs. Maybe Nixon is needing to get more opportunities. Richardson is a tough, hard runner, but can’t seem to make second level defenders miss. Other solutions? Simply play better, block better, run more effective. Spencer Sanders is a big part of the run game too, but he needs to avoid taking unnecessary hits. 

"I wish we could have put the hammer down and finished it,” Dunn said. “I’m really disappointed (about) obviously, myself and what we did on offense. We’ve got to find a way to finish that thing off. We just didn’t move the ball well enough in the second half.” 

A key play again on a late third period drive where scoring a touchdown rather than a field goal would have made a huge difference was third and seven at the TCU 15 as Sanders took the shotgun snap and found Presley who appeared to be open, but in one of the most unsung defensive plays safety Bud Clark timed a jump from behind Presley just right to knock the ball away and not interfere. It was a stellar play by Clark.

“As the game went on and we struggled to run the football, it allowed them to do more defensively,” Gundy summarized in a way talking about safeties in the red zone being focused on playing back like Clark on that key defended pass. “It allowed them to open up and do some things that made it more difficult.”

That said, this was a double overtime loss. It was a close game with more than a few chances. One was after Oklahoma State recovered with the big fourth down completion to Johnson to the two and then Richardson powered in the touchdown to pull Oklahoma State within one in the first overtime. On the television broadcast nobody said anything about going for two, on the Cowboy Network Radio broadcast it was not mentioned. I was on the field and never thought about it myself.

The Oklahoman’s Berry Tramel did, and asked Gundy.

“Kind of,” Gundy said. “A little bit (but) I felt we needed to kick it, give ourselves a chance.” 

I can’t argue that. You would have to go for two in the next overtime anyway. It didn’t come to that, and it left the quarterback that proved his toughness again in a foul mood.

“I hate losing,” Spencer Sanders said in a postgame press conference of sentences of few words. “And I’m boiling inside.”

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Offensive Review: Sanders Was Going to Play, Cowboys Needed More in Run Game

6,924 Views | 23 Replies | Last: 2 yr ago by CaliforniaCowboy
CaliforniaCowboy
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Cowboys needed more run game?

I was asking preseason where we were going to get that, and everybody ignored the questions, or said we'd get it done "by committee".

I was hoping that Jackson might be a difference maker, but we have yet to see much of him this season.

I was hoping that Gordon would be ready by mid-season.... perhaps that is still the answer.

it's probably time to go with Ollie out of the gate, what else do we have to lose at this point?
PistolD
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Glad we hate losing. We've won a lot but anybody watching knows either Spencer can't pass completing under fifty percent two games in a row, or he's playing injured. I suspect it's the latter but it won't be acknowledged and sure doesn't need to be. I hope he heals because we can't beat many teams with the offense we ran from the middle of the second quarter on.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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Sanders under-threw probably 10-12 passes. I'd guess his injury contributed. It is what it is.
Jally
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The starting RB creates very little. If the line opens a 3 yard hole, he'll get 3. Very rarely do we see him juke, break a tackle, or have the vision for a cut back to find more running room. We gotta have more production out of that position.
MycatToby
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Gundy always blames the run game and Oline, but I thought the WR play extremely weak. Jaden Bray missing so much time and then not playing again when he should be getting in rhythm is really a blow to us, and Braydon Johnson was actively poor.
Orangeheart72
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The story has been that the "2's and 3's" are getting the same reps as the 1's making us deeper and thus more resilient in case of injuries or need. IMO....we lack a difference maker at tailback and one wide out. I'd love to see some effort to share those positions more at the least, as SS needs some other folks to count on. Last year, we had pro potential at each spot. This year, we appear not even average in conference.
Guitar54
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We've known since the first few games against lesser opponents that our run game was below average and would be a problem in conference play. What did they do? Nothing. Dunn runs the same 3 plays over and over and over again expecting a different result. ZERO creativity. Zero. No different schemes and rarely different personnel. Our offense is unimaginative and predictable. And it's being made even worse by the fact that our receivers can't get any separation. TCU's defense isn't even that good and Dunn couldn't scheme around it.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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What's the old saying?

If you need 1 yard, our RB will get you one yard. If you need 3 yards, he'll get you one.
CaliforniaCowboy
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Guitar54 said:

We've known since the first few games against lesser opponents that our run game was below average and would be a problem in conference play. What did they do? Nothing. Dunn runs the same 3 plays over and over and over again expecting a different result. ZERO creativity. Zero. No different schemes and rarely different personnel. Our offense is unimaginative and predictable. And it's being made even worse by the fact that our receivers can't get any separation. TCU's defense isn't even that good and Dunn couldn't scheme around it.
exactly..... and just about puked when we ran the QB draw, I think it was the last drive on 3rd and 9.... for gosh sakes.

I get play action, or RPO, or scrambling on a covered pass... but a freaking QB draw? OMG
CaliforniaCowboy
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

What's the old saying?

If you need 1 yard, our RB will get you one yard. If you need 3 yards, he'll get you one.
that is not actually an OSU saying.... (i.e, not our RB)

I think it's actually a joke, not words of wisdom
MycatToby
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By the way, I think it was clearly questionable at the time to go for 2 with how the momentum was.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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CaliforniaCowboy said:

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

What's the old saying?

If you need 1 yard, our RB will get you one yard. If you need 3 yards, he'll get you one.
that is not actually an OSU saying.... (i.e, not our RB)

Never said it was an OSU saying, but it is actual quote about an ISU player from back in the day. But you're sorta uneducated about such matters. So, it's not surprising you'd push back.

I think it's actually a joke, not words of wisdom
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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CaliforniaCowboy said:

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

What's the old saying?

If you need 1 yard, our RB will get you one yard. If you need 3 yards, he'll get you one.
that is not actually an OSU saying.... (i.e, not our RB)

I think it's actually a joke, not words of wisdom


Never said it was an OSU saying, but it is actual quote about an OSU player from back in the day. But you're sorta uneducated about such matters. So, it's not surprising you'd push back
Joe Khatib
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

Sanders under-threw probably 10-12 passes. I'd guess his injury contributed. It is what it is.
Braydon Johnson was targeted nine times but only had three catches, he should have had six but those darn hands, a bugaboo his whole career, just couldn't make the receptions when needed! It is what it is I guess!
Vonrocky
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What is Derek Mason going to do about #7 cb Mohammed?

TCU receivers ran past #7 on almost every play. If it wasn't for the heroic touchdown saving tackles by S Jason Taylor we would have lost easily in regulation.
Texas will target #7 on every pass play.

Don't we have a safety who could play corner?
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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Vonrocky said:

What is Derek Mason going to do about #7 cb Mohammed?

TCU receivers ran past #7 on almost every play. If it wasn't for the heroic touchdown saving tackles by S Jason Taylor we would have lost easily in regulation.
Texas will target #7 on every pass play.

Don't we have a safety who could play corner?


He actually wasn't too bad. Jabbar won a few, lost a few last Sat. As our best cover corner, he was asked to cover #1 (a GREAT WR) on every play. Jabbar is 5'10", Johnston is 6'4", tough matchup no matter how you look at it.
CaliforniaCowboy
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

Vonrocky said:

What is Derek Mason going to do about #7 cb Mohammed?

TCU receivers ran past #7 on almost every play. If it wasn't for the heroic touchdown saving tackles by S Jason Taylor we would have lost easily in regulation.
Texas will target #7 on every pass play.

Don't we have a safety who could play corner?


He actually wasn't too bad. Jabber won a few, lost a few last Sat. As our best cover corner, he was asked to cover #1 (a GREAT WR) on every play. Jabber is 5'10", Johnston is 6'4", tough matchup no matter how you look at it.
I was thinking the same thing, I saw Jabber make a lot of good plays.

TCU had fast receivers all over the field... they are a fast team in general.
backphil
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" . . . The starting RB creates very little. If the line opens a 3 yard hole, he'll get 3. Very rarely do we see him juke, break a tackle, or have the vision for a cut back to find more running room."

Especially when you compare Warren's vision and wiggle from last year.
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Guitar54
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CaliforniaCowboy said:

Guitar54 said:

We've known since the first few games against lesser opponents that our run game was below average and would be a problem in conference play. What did they do? Nothing. Dunn runs the same 3 plays over and over and over again expecting a different result. ZERO creativity. Zero. No different schemes and rarely different personnel. Our offense is unimaginative and predictable. And it's being made even worse by the fact that our receivers can't get any separation. TCU's defense isn't even that good and Dunn couldn't scheme around it.
exactly..... and just about puked when we ran the QB draw, I think it was the last drive on 3rd and 9.... for gosh sakes.

I get play action, or RPO, or scrambling on a covered pass... but a freaking QB draw? OMG
And it was so predictable that that was going to be the play. Zero imagination or deception.
Joe Khatib
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Yeah he only had to cover and try to shut down an NFL receiver who will probably be a high first round draft choice! What is wrong with him!
CaliforniaCowboy
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

CaliforniaCowboy said:



Never said it was an OSU saying, but it is actual quote about an ISU player from back in the day. But you're sorta uneducated about such matters. So, it's not surprising you'd push back.

yep... talk about uneducated.... seriously, you do not have to be an ass towards others in every single post...

The line was frequently said about Dallas Cowboys fullback Walt Garrison. "If you need four yards, he'll get you four. If you need 10 yards, he'll get four," a newspaper story in 1972 printed. Garrison and others have credited the line to Cowboys quarterback Don Meredith[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Meredith][/url]
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CaliforniaCowboy said:

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

CaliforniaCowboy said:



Never said it was an OSU saying, but it is actual quote about an ISU player from back in the day. But you're sorta uneducated about such matters. So, it's not surprising you'd push back.

yep... talk about uneducated.... seriously, you do not have to be an ass towards others in every single post...

The line was frequently said about Dallas Cowboys fullback Walt Garrison. "If you need four yards, he'll get you four. If you need 10 yards, he'll get four," a newspaper story in 1972 printed. Garrison and others have credited the line to Cowboys quarterback Don Meredith[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Meredith][/url]
Point is...............If you were up on OSU Cowboy lore, you'd have recognized the sentiment of the quote. Taking 3 days to google it doesn't count.
CaliforniaCowboy
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

CaliforniaCowboy said:

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

CaliforniaCowboy said:



Never said it was an OSU saying, but it is actual quote about an ISU player from back in the day. But you're sorta uneducated about such matters. So, it's not surprising you'd push back.

yep... talk about uneducated.... seriously, you do not have to be an ass towards others in every single post...

The line was frequently said about Dallas Cowboys fullback Walt Garrison. "If you need four yards, he'll get you four. If you need 10 yards, he'll get four," a newspaper story in 1972 printed. Garrison and others have credited the line to Cowboys quarterback Don Meredith[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Meredith][/url]
Point is...............If you were up on OSU Cowboy lore, you'd have recognized the sentiment of the quote. Taking 3 days to google it doesn't count.
the point is that you were wrong, what you wrote said YOUR RB (ours), so clearly it was intended about us, and you said ISU which everybody knew was wrong, and you made personal attacks about my intelligence.

the point is that you are not a nice person. Live with it.
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