Jarrett Henry's Story is Interesting and Fits Oklahoma State Like He Does

This is good, need more of these downnhill type lineman that can push people around at the line of scrimmage!

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I wish Etienne the best. But excited about this JC guy.

It finally appears our OL depth and talent problems may be resolved going forward. Dickey has now been at OSU for four recruiting cycles (he came in February of '19), (timeframes somewhat confused/complicated due to the Covid pandemic and rise of the portal). But here we are finally with seemingly a two deep plus a couple more. The old football coaching adage is a new (head) coach needs 5 years. I'd think of all position coaches, the OL coach would be in a very similar situation. At his age, 61ish, you'd think we may very well hang onto Dickey for at least another four or five years if he can get this unit going.....so some very important stability for the offense.

Orangeheart72 said:

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It finally appears our OL depth and talent problems may be resolved going forward. Dickey has now been at OSU for four recruiting cycles (he came in February of '19), somewhat confused due to the Covid pandemic and rise of the portal. But here we are finally with seemingly a two deep plus a couple more. The old football coaching adage is a new (head) coach needs 5 years. I'd think of all position coaches, the OL coach would be in a very similar situation. At his age, 61ish, you'd think we may very well hang onto Dickey for at least another four or five years if he can get this unit going.....so some very important stability for the offense.

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I don't think we yet have a "solid" starting OLine, much less a "2-deep".

Time will tell, but your comments are based solely on paper reports and performance at lower tier programs.

Honestly, I'm hoping for the best, and sort of think that we have a chance to be slightly better than last year, if we don't have a rash of injuries.

The facts are that we have not had a JUCO guy come in and play year one, in I don't know how long.

We're moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic while we listen to the Orchestra play... at least for this year.

The projected starters. That looks a lot like the same faces...

Dalton Cooper, RSr., 6-7, 311
Jason Brooks Jr., RJr., 6-4, 298
Joe Michalski, RSr., 6-4, 303
Cole Birmingham, RSr., 6-5, 325
Jake Springfield, RSr., 6-5, 323

My comments are nothing against Dickey. I like Dickey, and I think he's done a great job, all things considered. I hope he's here as long as he wishes to coach.

I believe the adage is a football HEAD coach needs 5 years because you have 100 players and could only bring in 25 per year. For OLine coaches, you only have 7 or 8 that you need to have ready, and it should only take you a couple of years to accomplish that - in theory. When you add in NIL, the portal, and time for player development, it does complicate that adage formula somewhat.

We have a great group of kids, like you said, I hope we can hold onto them for a few years, but the portal is a concern regarding retention, as is NIL.

Faces are mostly familiar but your first two guys at LT are new, Brooks lost a game or two injured (I think RT was the only position manned by one player all season), Michalski was not healthy and was in first year and Birmingham missed pretty much the whole season. IF this list you show holds up, two previous starters (Materko and Wilson) are no better than second string. Dickey may not have a bunch of All Conference players, but he lacked healthy players period the last couple years for lack of depth. Now there's some competition 2 deep IMO.

Orangeheart72 said:

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Faces are mostly familiar but your first two guys at LT are new, Brooks lost a game or two injured (I think RT was the only position manned by one player all season), Michalski was not healthy and was in first year and Birmingham missed pretty much the whole season. IF this list you show holds up, two previous starters (Materko and Wilson) are no better than second string. Dickey may not have a bunch of All Conference players, but he lacked healthy players period the last couple years for lack of depth. Now there's some competition 2 deep IMO.

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agree 100%

and hope "springs" anew.... don't forget that this time last year Woodson was a starter for the 1st 7 games, and we had Webber and Collier on the roster... along with these guys listed and Etienne, and things still went South in a hurry.

Oh, I hear ya.... but I hope you can understand my wait and see attitude at this point prior to the season.

I think that they will be good enough if we can keep enough of them healthy. Dalton Cooper already missed almost all of Spring practice due to injury, and we had to move Birmingham to tackle.

I agree Michalski, Mitreko and Wilson are all not good. Just experienced bodies on the line.

Birmingham, Cooper, brooks are good ones on starters.

Kawecki, Endean are good ones in 2nd line.

Others are average or not yet ready for prime time yet.

RodeoPoke said:

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Orangeheart72 said:

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It finally appears our OL depth and talent problems may be resolved going forward. Dickey has now been at OSU for four recruiting cycles (he came in February of '19), somewhat confused due to the Covid pandemic and rise of the portal. But here we are finally with seemingly a two deep plus a couple more. The old football coaching adage is a new (head) coach needs 5 years. I'd think of all position coaches, the OL coach would be in a very similar situation. At his age, 61ish, you'd think we may very well hang onto Dickey for at least another four or five years if he can get this unit going.....so some very important stability for the offense.

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I don't think we yet have a "solid" starting OLine, much less a "2-deep".

Time will tell, but your comments are based solely on paper reports and performance at lower tier programs.

Honestly, I'm hoping for the best, and sort of think that we have a chance to be slightly better than last year, if we don't have a rash of injuries.

The facts are that we have not had a JUCO guy come in and play year one, in I don't know how long.

We're moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic while we listen to the Orchestra play... at least for this year.

The projected starters. That looks a lot like the same faces...

Dalton Cooper, RSr., 6-7, 311
Jason Brooks Jr., RJr., 6-4, 298
Joe Michalski, RSr., 6-4, 303
Cole Birmingham, RSr., 6-5, 325
Jake Springfield, RSr., 6-5, 323

My comments are nothing against Dickey. I like Dickey, and I think he's done a great job, all things considered. I hope he's here as long as he wishes to coach.

I believe the adage is a football HEAD coach needs 5 years because you have 100 players and could only bring in 25 per year. For OLine coaches, you only have 7 or 8 that you need to have ready, and it should only take you a couple of years to accomplish that - in theory. When you add in NIL, the portal, and time for player development, it does complicate that adage formula somewhat.

We have a great group of kids, like you said, I hope we can hold onto them for a few years, but the portal is a concern regarding retention, as is NIL.

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I hope they make me eat crow, but Michalski and Springfield are not good enough. Again, I hope I'm wrong if they are planning on rolling with them.