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Chad Weiberg and Mike Gundy Talk Big 12 New Members and 16-Team Conference

August 5, 2023
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STILLWATER – Oklahoma State athletics director Chad Weiberg was added to the schedule for Cowboys Football Media Day. Less than 24 hours after finding out the Big 12 was up to 16 and now had four former Pac-12 schools in it’s membership. Lots of smiles and celebrations as the Big 12 joins the top conferences that enjoy strength in numbers. 

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Tylan Wallace catches a touchdown pass in the 52-36 OSU win at Oregon State.

However, I threw out a question with the intent of sobering the situation. In 2019 we opened the season at Oregon State. Corvallis, Ore. is off the beaten path and the Beavers are overshadowed by their neighbors a little over an hour away in the University of Oregon Ducks. We saw that Oregon State was starting a $100-million stadium and football facilities project then that is now completed, right as the conference they play in has crumbled with the orange and black Beavers, coached by a successful alum quarterback in Jonathan Smith, sound familiar?

“Believe me, we’ve all thought about that very thing,” answered Weighberg. “You don’t have to go back very far, just a couple of years ago and there was a lot of uncertainty among our membership in the Big 12. I know the thought prcoess they (oregon State) are going through, the conversations they are having, and I have great sympathy for them.”

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Weiberg was quick to credit Boone Pickens, all other significant donors, the Oklahoma State fan base, and Mike Gundy and his football teams. It is because of the decisions OSU made when they did, the successful run starting when it did, that Weiberg and the Cowboys can join the rest of the Big 12 in welcoming in the new members.

"We're excited to welcome Arizona, Arizona State and Utah into the conference,” Weiberg stated of the three teams. Oklahoma State has played Arizona State and Arizona several times. Utah only once when the national champion 1945 Oklahoma A&M Aggies beat the Utes 46-6. 

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Weiberg talks expanded Big 12 and welcomes the new members.

“Appreciate Colorado preceding that with their acceptance into the conference,” continued Weiberg. “I think it's going to be a great 16-team league and the future is very bright for the Big 12. I really appreciate, I think as we all do, the leadership of the board of directors, presidents and chancellors they had in this. Obviously Commissioner Yormark, who I think did a fantastic job with his leadership. We're very, very excited about where the conference is headed and the future of the league moving forward.” 

"They're good additions,” head football coach Mike Gundy concurred. “We talked about this a little bit the other day, Arizona and Arizona State have the same Board of Regents anyway, so I don't know anything about it, but I don't know how they could be in that meeting and think it's good for one but not for the other. And then obviously Utah is a very good program. I think they're very well coached and they play over their head and win games that people think they shouldn't win and have done it consistently. (Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham) has been there the same amount of time I have.

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Utah has a big-time program and stadium in Rice-Eccles.

Utah is a very good program. Over the last decade, 10 years, Oklahoma State is 89-40 overall. Utah under Kyle Whittingham is 83-42. Pretty close, and Utah plays football the way we do in the Big 12, physical and tough.

“I know there's a lot of graphics that come out on wins and bowl wins and a lot of different things and years in bowls because people text them to my phone, and it seems like Utah is always in that list of 10 or 12 or 15 teams,” Gundy added. “So, they're bringing in a really good team and they're one of those teams that - and I think Oklahoma State is this way - if you polled coaches anonymously across the country teams that you would really not want to play, because it's hard enough to play and beat them and you might not get the credibility that you think you're going to get from the exposure based on history. Utah is one of those teams."

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Gundy talks to the media on Media Day.

Both Weiberg and Gundy said that scheduling hasn’t been discussed, but it will be an important issue.

“Clearly it's a dynamic time and it's going to continue to be a dynamic time, so I think the more that you can be on the same page as you work through those types of decisions you have to make with them, the better you're going to be able to move and quicker you'll be able to react to what's going on.," Weiberg said.

Gundy pointed out you schedule because you want to create competitive balance for everybody, but you want to create rivalries and good games for telelvision. Nothing will change, just more teams and more travel.

In the meantime, Weiberg pointed out that there is something that comes up first.

“I'm excited about this year as well,” said the athletics director going into his third season in that role. “So in the meantime, we'll kick off this football season and I'm looking forward to seeing what Cowboy football has to offer this year."

 

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Chad Weiberg and Mike Gundy Talk Big 12 New Members and 16-Team Conference

4,784 Views | 10 Replies | Last: 9 mo ago by RodeoPoke
Orangeheart72
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Fun stuff. My wife and I enjoy rooting for Big XII teams OOC (except OU and now days UT). Lots of new "soon to be" Big XII teams to root for this year. I just really wish we'd push the envelope and take Oregon State and UConn. Away games in Oregon and New England in the fall. An old Pokes dream!
Calpoke
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I would imagine agreeing on the structure of the league is going to be a big challenge. I think all teams will want to be grouped with the Texas teams. I already heard the ASU president mention it in an interview. I think it will be vitally important from a recruiting standpoint for the Cowboys ensure they are grouped in that division!
Joe Khatib
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Calpoke said:

I would imagine agreeing on the structure of the league is going to be a big challenge. I think all teams will want to be grouped with the Texas teams. I already heard the ASU president mention it in an interview. I think it will be vitally important from a recruiting standpoint for the Cowboys ensure they are grouped in that division!
They will be structured in a way that makes geographic sense and doesn't send teams halfway across the Country every other week!!! Look at Roberts article about his idea on how the conference should be set up!
RodeoPoke
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Joe Khatib said:

Calpoke said:

I would imagine agreeing on the structure of the league is going to be a big challenge. I think all teams will want to be grouped with the Texas teams. I already heard the ASU president mention it in an interview. I think it will be vitally important from a recruiting standpoint for the Cowboys ensure they are grouped in that division!
They will be structured in a way that makes geographic sense and doesn't send teams halfway across the Country every other week!!! Look at Roberts article about his idea on how the conference should be set up!
and that is the absolute worst approach to take.

This guy is supposed to be forward thinking, everybody already eliminated divisions, this clown will take us back to the stone ages.

Games can be scheduled without permanent divisions, everybody is doing it.
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RodeoPoke said:

Joe Khatib said:

Calpoke said:

I would imagine agreeing on the structure of the league is going to be a big challenge. I think all teams will want to be grouped with the Texas teams. I already heard the ASU president mention it in an interview. I think it will be vitally important from a recruiting standpoint for the Cowboys ensure they are grouped in that division!
They will be structured in a way that makes geographic sense and doesn't send teams halfway across the Country every other week!!! Look at Roberts article about his idea on how the conference should be set up!
and that is the absolute worst approach to take.

This guy is supposed to be forward thinking, everybody already eliminated divisions, this clown will take us back to the stone ages.

Games can be scheduled without permanent divisions, everybody is doing it.
?????????? I am trying to follow your logic here but how is it a good thing to have a particular team go halfway across the Country every week!!!
RodeoPoke
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Joe Khatib said:

RodeoPoke said:

Joe Khatib said:

Calpoke said:

I would imagine agreeing on the structure of the league is going to be a big challenge. I think all teams will want to be grouped with the Texas teams. I already heard the ASU president mention it in an interview. I think it will be vitally important from a recruiting standpoint for the Cowboys ensure they are grouped in that division!
They will be structured in a way that makes geographic sense and doesn't send teams halfway across the Country every other week!!! Look at Roberts article about his idea on how the conference should be set up!
and that is the absolute worst approach to take.

This guy is supposed to be forward thinking, everybody already eliminated divisions, this clown will take us back to the stone ages.

Games can be scheduled without permanent divisions, everybody is doing it.
?????????? I am trying to follow your logic here but how is it a good thing to have a particular team go halfway across the Country every week!!!
Don't you meant 4 times per year, per team? 4 home conference games, four away conference games.

That's like once a month AT WORST.

It's a good thing because EVERYBODY has to travel, and everybody gets access to the hotbed recruiting States.

We already tried the regional divisional crap before and the Big12 North eventually just plain sucked because they did not have equal access to the Texas recruits. (meaning the Coaches being able to promise kids that they will play frequently in Texas (or FL, or CA) so that their parents and friends can come see them play).



Danny Deck
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I would guess our media deal was premised on 9 conference games, I highly doubt we go back to 8. Any guessing at how best to schedule should figure on 9 conference games.
RodeoPoke
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Danny Deck said:

I would guess our media deal was premised on 9 conference games, I highly doubt we go back to 8. Any guessing at how best to schedule should figure on 9 conference games.
why guess, you could look it up....

It's based on the total number of games, and more teams obviously means more games... the excess games end up on Big12 Sports Now (ESPN+)


"For the "A" package, ESPN gets the top four football picks each season, six of the top eight picks, eight of the top 12 picks and 12 of the top 20 picks. As part of the deal, ESPN also gets the rights to the Big 12 football championship game and the basketball tournament championship game. The Big 12's parity helped convince Fox, whose package includes 26 football games per season that will run on Fox broadcast network and FS1, to do the deal.


From Fox's perspective, the silver lining to the loss of Oklahoma and Texas is that the Big 12 will be more balanced and potentially deeper. For example, TCU and Kansas State sit atop the Big 12's standings this season. Last season, it was Oklahoma State and Baylor. And the year before that, it was Iowa State. Fox's deal also provides a slate of Big 12 college basketball games on Fox and FS1 for the first time."

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/SB-Blogs/Breaking-News/2022/10/Big-12-renews-media-deal-ESPN-Fox.aspx

The Big12 needs to be playing fewer Conference games so that more teams have a better chance to qualify for a bowl game (like the B1G and the SEC do)

The don't have to be "bad games", like we're playing ASU, WVU has a couple of tough games, etc.
Danny Deck
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Big 10 plays 9 conference games. Prior to its implosion the PAC played 9 conference games. Only the SEC and ACC play 8 conference games. There has been pressure on the SEC to play 9. Regardless of the wisdom of playing 8 conference games, we are not going to reduce the number of conference games.
RodeoPoke
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Danny Deck said:

Big 10 plays 9 conference games. Prior to its implosion the PAC played 9 conference games. Only the SEC and ACC play 8 conference games. There has been pressure on the SEC to play 9. Regardless of the wisdom of playing 8 conference games, we are not going to reduce the number of conference games.
you could be correct, I have not been impressed with Yormark.... he'll probably screw us into oblivion playing 9 conf games, when we desperately need to get 9-10 of these teams qualified for post season.

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