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Oklahoma State Struggles From Start to Finish in 33-7 Blowout Loss to South Alabama

September 16, 2023
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STILLWATER – Oklahoma State finished the non-conference slate of games with an embarrassing 33-7 blowout loss to South Alabama.

With the loss, the Cowboys fell to 2-1 to start the season. They’ll travel to Ames, IA, next week for a 3 p.m. kick against Iowa State.

“I feel bad for our fans the way we coached and played,” Mike Gundy said following the 33-7 loss to South Alabama. “I apologize to them. Great crowd, great atmosphere and we didn’t do a very good job of coaching and certainly didn’t do a very good job of executing.”

It was just about as bad of a game as we’ve seen from the Cowboys in quite some time, other than the 48-0 loss to Kansas State in 2022. The Pokes combined for just 70 total yards, 44 through the air and 26 on the ground, while going just 1-of-8 on third down attempts. However, the stat that stuck out the most was more first half punts at six than first down with just five.

On the other side of the ball in the first half, the Jaguars combined for 232 total yards, 125 through the air and 107 on the ground, while they combined for 5-of-8 on third down with 12 first downs.

The second half was better than the first half offensively for the Pokes, but just in terms of yardage. The Pokes combined for 138 total yards in the second half, although they did get into the end zone at the beginning of the fourth quarter.

The Pokes were, however, better on the defensive side of the ball as they allowed just 163 total yards in the second half, but 136 of those came on the ground, which included a 65-yard touchdown run.

Collin Oliver led the way for the Pokes with 10 total tackles, five solos stops, one strip sack and one pass break up.

It was Alan Bowman who got the nod to start and went 6-of-12 for 42 yards and one interception in his four offensive possessions. The Cowboys’ offensive woes started on the opening drive as receiver Jaden Bray dropped a wide open pass from Bowman, a play which would’ve been a 48-yard touchdown.

The Pokes showed a little bit of life out of the break as the defense forced a USA punt on their opening drive of the second half. That was followed by an impressive 21-yard run by Gunnar Gundy for a first down, then a circus catch by Bray who hauled in a pass, which was tipped twice, while on the ground for a first down. However, the drive was capped by a second sack on Gundy to force the seventh OSU punt of the night.

It took until the fourth quarter, but the Pokes started to show a little bit of offensive life following a solid defensive stop. Collin Oliver recorded a 15-yard strip sack, which was recovered by the Jags, but it led to a punt.

Starting on the OSU 16-yard line, Gundy hit Josiah Johnson for 11 yards and the first down, a one-yard keeper up the middle on third and one to get the first down, a 15-yard completion to Talyn Shettron, and a 16-yard run up the middle for a first down by Jaden Nixon. Gundy then hit Bray for 10 yards down to the USA 19-yard line and rushed eight yards up the middle on 1st and 14 to get the eight yard line.

Ollie Gordon recorded a hard rush on 3rd and six down to the USA two-yard line, before another USA injured player, which was followed by a timeout on 4th and two. However, Gundy came out of the break and pitched the ball to Nixon who got into the end zone for the Pokes’ first score of the game, 23-7, with 12:14 left in the game.

The Cowboy defense came up huge on the ensuing drive by forcing a three-and-out and a punt. However, Brennan Presley muffed the punt to give the Jags the ball back on the OSU 20-yard line. They came up with yet another stop to keep USA out of the end zone, but the Jags nailed a 42-yard field goal to go back up 19 points, 26-7, with 9:04 left in the game.

Garret Rangel was put in the game following the field goal. Gundy finished the game going 9-of-18 for 64 yards through the air and 10 carries for 27 yards.

The Pokes went three-and-out in Rangel’s first drive, which also included two declined offensive holds. USA got into the end zone from 65 yards out on the ensuing possession, putting the Jags on top 33-7.

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Oklahoma State Struggles From Start to Finish in 33-7 Blowout Loss to South Alabama

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Eclectic
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I think all of the offensive staff needs to go. This offense has been stale for the past 3 years. I'll give Nardo 2 more years. But if gundy doesn't have the balls to make major changes, he needs to go as well. It's lonely at the top....produce results or move on...
principalg
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Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JPat
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Eclectic said:

I think all of the offensive staff needs to go. This offense has been stale for the past 3 years. I'll give Nardo 2 more years. But if gundy doesn't have the balls to make major changes, he needs to go as well. It's lonely at the top....produce results or move on...
Yup
PokeSmot75
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Eclectic said:

I think all of the offensive staff needs to go. This offense has been stale for the past 3 years. I'll give Nardo 2 more years. But if gundy doesn't have the balls to make major changes, he needs to go as well. It's lonely at the top....produce results or move on...


Agreed. Dunn was a terrible hire/promotion. I guess he can recruit okay but really nobody on this staff can recruit worth a flip so the best of a bad bunch. Dickey should have been gone after last year.

This program is rapidly plunging in the wrong direction., hopefully Gundy can right the ship.
rcfb
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100% on the coaches. If you are taken to back of woodshed by a G5 team with a sold out home crowd, you will lose more than just a game. You lose players and fans confidence, boosters money, reputation. This has massive ramifications. I don't remember such loss after 2010.

Hopefully Gundy and Weiburg do the correct thing.
Pokes4158
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This is the football version of get what you get and don't throw a fit. We can just wait until the wheels fall off and we start new again. Hopefully sooner than later
cannewt
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We've gone backwards every year with Dunn as OC. Here's our year-by-year national rank in Yards Per Play:

2016 (Yurcich): 10th - 6.6 YPP
2017: 4th - 7.3
2018: 21st - 6.1
2019 (Gleeson): 30th - 6.1
2020 (Dunn): 74th - 5.4
2021: 77th - 5.4
2022: 99th - 4.9
2023: 101st- 4.6

Have nothing against Dunn personally but we have to stop making excuses. Excuse narrative by year. In 2020 Spencer was young and learning the offense, 2021 we had all our WRs injured. 2022 we had the oline injured so we couldn't run the ball.

It's clear this year the change in run scheme isn't fixing anything and all 3 games our original game plan has been ineffective. If any business unit is not performing for 4-5 years in a row you have to make a change. Mike Gundy, well deserved, is nationally renowned as a great offensive K mind yet we haven't had a top 25 offense in 6 years!
eecowboy
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In the Gundy era, Other than Colorado in 05 I can't remember a beat down loss at home worse than this one. Houston in 09 sucked, but we were competitive. And other frustrating losses for sure, but this? This game we were never in it, nor competitive. Nor competent to say the least.

We got out coached (an annual theme once, if not twice, a year by Gundy per his own admissions on the radio show), we got outplayed by a team that literally rolled into Stillwater at 345 pm (stuck behind their bus caravan on hwy 51), and gave zero ****s, and chewed our asses up and spit us out, and we got our asses kicked by a team coached by coaches who still want it, and not on guaranteed annual contracts that roll over regardless.

Beyond abysmal tonight from a coaching standpoint.

I can't think of a worse home loss in this era on a dads day, sold out crowd, great weather and we looked this inept and foolish across the board.

Beyond embarrassing and we have no one to blame but the head coach and his staff cashing those checks.

Pathetic.

Gonna be a long year.
Orangeheart72
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Tonight, S. Alabama certainly seemed to have the better coaches, better qb (or play schemes), better defensive line (or D line scheme) and better O line straight up. With OSU's resources, it is hard to understand.
RodeoPoke
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cannewt said:

... we haven't had a top 25 offense in 6 years!

I think you meant to say, haven't had a top 25 offense in the past 4.3 years - based on your list.

but I get your point.

That game was a total beatdown.


To me it seemed that the offensive players were trying to take too much upon themselves to make something happen, and hence were taking their eyes off the ball, or not focusing, but then, that is a coaching problem.

too many penalties, guys dropping balls, mis-communication between QB/WR, etc.

I was so confused after hearing about improving the running game that once again we started Bowman with 5 consecutive passes.

It looked like Kendal Daniels was out of position, took bad angles, or was cut off from the play more times than he made a play, I'm not sure what happened to him in that game.

I don't think we have any NFL caliber players on the offense.... maybe Stribling, but he got hurt.

Sigh
TreeX
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Need change at the top. Very top. People are slow to change and will always make the argument against change, for fear of having worst. Gundy lost his fire some time ago and it shows. But things will not change, thats the OSU way.
Pokes4158
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That game was the worst. The energy just felt off in the stadium. It got loud some but it was clear fans were barely hanging in there. Balls thrown high our best receiver gets hurt because we are launching to the moon. Absolutely zero run game. What a sham. The breaks to honor people took longer than our offensive possessions. Literally like every free minute we had to pull people into the end zone to give shout outs. Worst of all we choose this game to honor Justin Blackmon? Just a disgrace. I mean it was so clear this is a different time for osu. Then the post game presser from Gundy was just brutal. It's getting hard to believe this ***** I mean how do they just continue to miss. How are we outcoached so regularly? How do we get zero push against any teams. We have zero competitive advantage. I mean in the past we could at least rely on having more talent but man it's not even that way anymore. This is officially crossed into the danger zone. We are teetering on collapse of this season folds because we just have zero things that separate us from other programs. What does osu have to offer kids that basically every other school has or is getting? Gundy doubled down on this staff after the **** show last year and if it doesn't pan out I hope for massive change. We just can't cover it up anymore
RodeoPoke
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TreeX said:

Need change at the top. Very top. People are slow to change and will always make the argument against change, for fear of having worst. Gundy lost his fire some time ago and it shows. But things will not change, thats the OSU way.
could be...

I'd start with Wieberg and Shrum

clearly lots of our coaches are not getting things (Mens BB) done while and they play the fiddle while Mecca burns
TUSKAPOKE
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Many of us on Pokes Report, at the end of last season, had a "spirited" back and forth. My position was that HCMG is paid for results and should be told that this is not acceptable. I was chastised severely for saying HCMG should be put on notice that vast improvement was needed or changes would be made. Three conference championships in history is unacceptable and the current status leaves OSU very vulnerable in what is coming with future evolution of high level college football. Will OSU be invited to that level or bypassed? Will the results of the past 15 years decide? When you see the talent on Central Arkansas and South Alabama compete favorably and even whip azz like last night and it is pointed out that several of their players were available to come to OSU and were passed on it seems that may be a problem. Last night OSU got outcoached and Central Arkansas gave OSU a run for the money too. This three QB rotation has been a weak experiment and not paid dividends other than making sure one does not go in the portal. Maybe the QB that should have gotten in the rotation is on the bench and since this year may be a bust let him mature on the field and get ready for a two year run like with Rudolph. Pointing out OL issues, talent and coaching, is beating a dead Bullet but it is a major problem and has been for a decade. Not having mobile QBs with the OL issues means failure. The "Nardo Experiment" is too early to judge but is hit and miss currently with too many busts last night. I watched the double OT CSU vs. CU game and both those teams seem to be at a higher level of play than OSU. I watched one of the most innovative offenses I have seen in years with the Army vs. UTSA as Army has a new OC with a background with Hal Mumme and a hybrid triple option running from the shotgun with passing and a limited OL. Lots of innovation that should be looked at especially with the play clock running.......Thank you PR for this therapy session on a Sunday morning after one of the weakest performances since the 1990s. I needed it! GO POKES!!!
PokeRob
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We are destined to have the worst athlete year in as long back as I can remember. Football it is what it is. Both golf teams are struggling we are no longer a golf school. Basketball who knows. Soccer will be middle of the pack due to lots of turn over. Think Tennis, Track and Equestrian could be good. Who knows about Baseball, Wrestling and Softball. Weiburg has some tough decisions to be made.
RodeoPoke
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PokeRob said:

We are destined to have the worst athlete year in as long back as I can remember. Football it is what it is. Both golf teams are struggling we are no longer a golf school. Basketball who knows. Soccer will be middle of the pack due to lots of turn over. Think Tennis, Track and Equestrian could be good. Who knows about Baseball, Wrestling and Softball. Weiburg has some tough decisions to be made.
it's a little bit too early for me to be giving up those seasons, including football. BB who knows, we'll see, we have an outside chance of making the big dance. Football, we have a chance to continue our winning seasons and bowl game streak, golf is really young. Soccer is doing much better than I expected so far, lots of freshman contributing, we'll see.

Softball should be solid but I'm concerned about post season with the loss of Maxwell... maybe we have enough.

Wrestling is a lost sport, collectively. Perhaps if we could get an at-large into the B1G.

Women's BB seems to be having a bit of a resurgence with the new coach.

All is not lost yet.... but you're right, it could go south in a heartbeat (South being the bad direction)
Legally-Lit
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Gundy likens himself to a CEO now. Well not making any moves on the offensive staff after the last 3 years or so of stale offensive production is the definition of nonfeasance.

Now the entire (firm) program is at risk. I do not think Holder would have let this happen. If Gundy doesn't make changes, I hope Weiberg finds the balls to force it or send him walking.
Guitar54
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Legally-Lit said:

Gundy likens himself to a CEO now. Well not making any moves on the offensive staff after the last 3 years or so of stale offensive production is the definition of nonfeasance.

Now the entire (firm) program is at risk. I do not think Holder would have let this happen. If Gundy doesn't make changes, I hope Weiberg finds the balls to force it or send him walking.


I couldn't agree more. Dunn is way in over his head. He lacks the football IQ it takes to make in game adjustments. It's a trait that is even more necessary when we lack talent. I'm sure he's a good loyal guy but business is business. He's gotta go.
Legally-Lit
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Exactly. He's 3 years in and still can't find answers when adversity hits. Yes so may be able to point to a few instances that go against my previous statement. But the numbers over his tenure do not lie. No more "injuries" to blame.

Really enjoyed what he did with the WR room over the years. But he was never fit for OC. Should have let him walk to UNLV.
PokeRob
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Yes and Arizona State just got taken to the wood shed by the powerful Fresno State 29-0.
OSUCowboy7142
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Maybe it's just me but it seems teams like Kansas and Colorado are having an opposite response to this new portal era. Both of theses teams have new coaching staff and new players but the coaches have a working history with each other and seem to be more cohesive. Is that now a new requirement for success?
OSUCowboy7142
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Hey don't bad mouth my Bulldogs!
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