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Pokes Report: CFP 12-team Playoff Predictions, Teams and Tournament

August 24, 2024
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STILLWATER – Happy College Footall 2024 everybody! Yes, the season is kicking off today and we waited until the last minute (second) to get our College Football Playoff predictions in. I did one earlier but then Texas lost running backs C.J.  Baxter and Christian Clark to season ending injuries. I had the Longhorns in the CFP final four, but losing two of your top three running backs including the siginificant starter in Baxter and that will change my mind.

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Pokes Report: CFP 12-team Playoff Predictions, Teams and Tournament

2,467 Views | 15 Replies | Last: 2 mo ago by RodeoPoke
Orangeheart72
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I would love this.....better yet Oregon beats tOSU to end it.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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I'll have two of whatever RA's drinking.
True wisdom is knowing what you don't know.
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RodeoPoke
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aren't you missing a B10 team from your list.

the formula is always:

SEC 4 teams
B10 4 teams
ACC 2 teams
Big12 1 team
5th conf champ 1 team.

some years the Big12 might get 2 teams and the ACC 1 team, but it alternates. I don't think WVU is better than Florida State this year.

the B12 has too much parity and the 2nd place team likely will not be ranked higher than FSU or Miami

Robert Allen
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There is no set formula. That is the likely formula the media is floating. However, there is no set formula despite the SEC and Big Ten getting more dollars.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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RodeoPoke said:

aren't you missing a B10 team from your list.

the formula is always:

SEC 4 teams
B10 4 teams
ACC 2 teams
Big12 1 team
5th conf champ 1 team.

some years the Big12 might get 2 teams and the ACC 1 team, but it alternates. I don't think WVU is better than Florida State this year.

the B12 has too much parity and the 2nd place team likely will not be ranked higher than FSU or Miami




Wwwwwut?
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RodeoPoke
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Robert Allen said:

There is no set formula. That is the likely formula the media is floating. However, there is no set formula despite the SEC and Big Ten getting more dollars.

yeah.... wink, wink, wink
Robert Allen
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I can see where you are coming from. BUT I do have faith in the CFP Selection Committee and I believe they will evaluate the teams and do the right thing. Strength of schedule is something the Big 12 can't do anything about except win games. We need West Virginia to beat Penn State, Oklahoma State to beat Arkansas, UCF to beat Florida, etc. Win games outside the conference and that helps.
RodeoPoke
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Robert Allen said:

I can see where you are coming from. BUT I do have faith in the CFP Selection Committee and I believe they will evaluate the teams and do the right thing. Strength of schedule is something the Big 12 can't do anything about except win games. We need West Virginia to beat Penn State, Oklahoma State to beat Arkansas, UCF to beat Florida, etc. Win games outside the conference and that helps.
wrong.

SOS is up to the control of the teams on conferences. That's why the other leagues only play 8 conference games to artificially boost their SOS, compared to the leagues that play 9 conf games.

the BCS committee, the voting polls, the CFP committee NONE of them have ever done it fairly.

GumbyFromPokeyLand
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RodeoPoke said:

Robert Allen said:

I can see where you are coming from. BUT I do have faith in the CFP Selection Committee and I believe they will evaluate the teams and do the right thing. Strength of schedule is something the Big 12 can't do anything about except win games. We need West Virginia to beat Penn State, Oklahoma State to beat Arkansas, UCF to beat Florida, etc. Win games outside the conference and that helps.
wrong.

SOS is up to the control of the teams on conferences. That's why the other leagues only play 8 conference games to artificially boost their SOS, compared to the leagues that play 9 conf games.

the BCS committee, the voting polls, the CFP committee NONE of them have ever done it fairly.




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RodeoPoke
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

RodeoPoke said:

Robert Allen said:

I can see where you are coming from. BUT I do have faith in the CFP Selection Committee and I believe they will evaluate the teams and do the right thing. Strength of schedule is something the Big 12 can't do anything about except win games. We need West Virginia to beat Penn State, Oklahoma State to beat Arkansas, UCF to beat Florida, etc. Win games outside the conference and that helps.
wrong.

SOS is up to the control of the teams on conferences. That's why the other leagues only play 8 conference games to artificially boost their SOS, compared to the leagues that play 9 conf games.

the BCS committee, the voting polls, the CFP committee NONE of them have ever done it fairly.




Wrong

don't you have something more productive to do?

3. Decreased total amount off losses conference wide

The third benefit of an eight-game conference schedule is that it provides less opportunity for a conference to "cannibalize" itself. Playing a ninth conference game guarantees that your conference, as a whole, will have more losses. The number of additional losses can be calculated by diving the number of teams by two. It is the equivalent of giving every team in one division of a conference an additional loss. In a sport where one loss can leave you out of contention for a playoff berth, minimizing your loss potential is critical. It is likely no coincidence that the two conferences that play an eight-game conference schedule have never missed the college football playoff, and that no conference with a nine-game conference schedule has made the college football playoff more the 60% of the time.
Robert Allen
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The conferences that play eight conference games are the SEC and ACC. The ACC is moving to nine game schedule and the Big Ten and Big 12 already do. The SEC takes flack for it. Believe me the CFP committee takes this into account.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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RodeoPoke said:

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

RodeoPoke said:

Robert Allen said:

I can see where you are coming from. BUT I do have faith in the CFP Selection Committee and I believe they will evaluate the teams and do the right thing. Strength of schedule is something the Big 12 can't do anything about except win games. We need West Virginia to beat Penn State, Oklahoma State to beat Arkansas, UCF to beat Florida, etc. Win games outside the conference and that helps.
wrong.

SOS is up to the control of the teams on conferences. That's why the other leagues only play 8 conference games to artificially boost their SOS, compared to the leagues that play 9 conf games.

the BCS committee, the voting polls, the CFP committee NONE of them have ever done it fairly.




Wrong

don't you have something more productive to do?

3. Decreased total amount off losses conference wide

The third benefit of an eight-game conference schedule is that it provides less opportunity for a conference to "cannibalize" itself. Playing a ninth conference game guarantees that your conference, as a whole, will have more losses. The number of additional losses can be calculated by diving the number of teams by two. It is the equivalent of giving every team in one division of a conference an additional loss. In a sport where one loss can leave you out of contention for a playoff berth, minimizing your loss potential is critical. It is likely no coincidence that the two conferences that play an eight-game conference schedule have never missed the college football playoff, and that no conference with a nine-game conference schedule has made the college football playoff more the 60% of the time.


No more or less productive than the nonsense you peddled to RA.

Let's take 2023.
13-0 Michigan in, 13-0 Washington in, 13-0 FSU out
12-1 Texas in, 12-1 Georgia out

The commentary you quoted was more about the weakness of the B12 and PAC 12 than the fact they played 9 game schedules, and the strength of the SEC and Clemson than their 8 game schedules. For Christ sakes.

I agree with RA. I trust the CFP to get it right.

True wisdom is knowing what you don't know.
- Confucius
RodeoPoke
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:





No more or less productive than the nonsense you peddled to RA.

Let's take 2023.
13-0 Michigan in, 13-0 Washington in, 13-0 FSU out
12-1 Texas in, 12-1 Georgia out

The commentary you quoted was more about the weakness of the B12 and PAC 12 than the fact they played 9 game schedules, and the strength of the SEC and Clemson than their 8 game schedules. For Christ sakes.

I agree with RA. I trust the CFP to get it right.



oh my, now he thinks the 4-team playoff was a 12-team playoff... SMH

and the CFP committee got it wrong by omitting FSU last year.... just flat out wrong.

besides that SUPPORTS what I said, UNDEFEATED FSU got omitted so they could put in another (NON ACC, non-B12 team that they liked better)

The ACC did not get invited to the last 4-team playoff, so that they could get in a SEC team, even despite them being conference champ and UNDEFEATED.... LIKE I SAID, and like they always do.

GumbyFromPokeyLand
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RodeoPoke said:

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:





No more or less productive than the nonsense you peddled to RA.

Let's take 2023.
13-0 Michigan in, 13-0 Washington in, 13-0 FSU out
12-1 Texas in, 12-1 Georgia out

The commentary you quoted was more about the weakness of the B12 and PAC 12 than the fact they played 9 game schedules, and the strength of the SEC and Clemson than their 8 game schedules. For Christ sakes.

I agree with RA. I trust the CFP to get it right.



oh my, now he thinks the 4-team playoff was a 12-team playoff... SMH

and the CFP committee got it wrong by omitting FSU last year.... just flat out wrong.

besides that SUPPORTS what I said, UNDEFEATED FSU got omitted so they could put in another (NON ACC, non-B12 team that they liked better)

The ACC did not get invited to the last 4-team playoff, so that they could get in a SEC team, even despite them being conference champ and UNDEFEATED.... LIKE I SAID, and like they always do.




And yet the nonsense you quoted was about the history of a 4- team playoff. So based on that, FSU and UGA should have been in the 2023 CFP. But alas, the 8 or 9 game conference schedule doesn't matter. It's the season results that matter.


Gumby out.
True wisdom is knowing what you don't know.
- Confucius
RodeoPoke
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:




And yet the nonsense you quoted was about the history of a 4- team playoff. So based on that, FSU and UGA should have been in the 2023 CFP. But alas, the 8 or 9 game conference schedule doesn't matter. It's the season results that matter.


Gumby out.

sorry Pal, you're not making any sense at all.

I quoted the history of NCAA playoffs / BCS everything where humans decide by committee or by vote and it has always been by whim of those selecting.

moving on. Please stay out of things like this in the future, thank you.

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