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Okay, Settlement Approved, What Does This Mean for Oklahoma State Athletics?

June 7, 2025
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STILLWATER – It is so much more fun to write about sports rather than legal proceedings dealing with college athletics. Now, money is involved to a much greater degree. The student-athletes, or for many of you that are being dragged kicking and screaming into this version of college sports, the new professionals, deserved to be paid. The revenue in football and basketball (men and women) is so great that it had to happen. Had it happened earlier then we might not be in this situation now.

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Okay, Settlement Approved, What Does This Mean for Oklahoma State Athletics?

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RodeoPoke
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could you please clarify for me?

I was not certain in the 2nd paragraph whether you are saying that existing players ARE grandfathered in. Was that stipulation added and approved?

CowboyKip
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RA in the NIL paragraph neat the end of the article you talk about the CSC reviewing NIL agreements for fair market value. What happens if there is a value violation? What happens if it's actually pay-for-play?
tulsasig
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What do you mean by "reining it in" concerning Cowboy Golf? Along with wrestling, it's our best athletic program. Any way you measure it - positive attention to OSU, competitive performance, academic performance, culture and compliance, etc. - it's a top program. It is already under the control of the OSU athletic department. If it ain't broke, why "rein it in"?
RodeoPoke
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CowboyKip said:

RA in the NIL paragraph neat the end of the article you talk about the CSC reviewing NIL agreements for fair market value. What happens if there is a value violation? What happens if it's actually pay-for-play?
In the post-settlement era, the NCAA will no longer be in charge of the enforcement of most rules. (It will still maintain purview over things like academics, but it will not patrol benefits.)

The CSC is the new era's enforcement arm that will have final say in doling out punishments and deciding when rules have been broken. It's one of the most important roles in this new era, as the industry has been craving some type of guidance since the advent of name, imagine and likeness has made the descriptor "wild, wild west" a common one in regard to the generally unregulated college sports industry.

In a formal announcement, Seeley's job is described as having to "build out the organization's investigative and enforcement teams and oversee all of its ongoing operations and stakeholder relationships." Per the release: "Seeley and his team will also be responsible for enforcement of the new rules around revenue sharing, student-athlete third-party name image and likeness (NIL) deals, and roster limits."

Seeley was hired by the four power conference commissioners -- the ACC's Jim Phillips, Big Ten's Tony Petitti, Big 12's Brett Yormark and SEC's Greg Sankey. They released a joint statement on his hire: "Bryan brings unwavering integrity and a wealth of relevant experience to his new role leading the College Sports Commission and working to ensure a smooth implementation of this new system. We're grateful to have an individual with his credentials and expertise at the helm, and we look forward to his leadership as we transition into this new era of college sports."

In Seeley, college sports will be getting a seasoned investigator with experience in both the private sector and professional sports. It's the type of background the commissioners sought in their search for the role.

Following Seeley's graduation from Harvard Law School, he served as an assistant U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., prosecuting federal white-collar fraud and public corruption cases as well as local violent crime.

MLB hired Seeley to take over its Department of Investigations in 2014

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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/45468012/mlb-exec-bryan-seeley-ceo-new-college-sports-commission

(what happens with enforcement? Same as now, OSU will be punished for every SEC violation)
RodeoPoke
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tulsasig said:

What do you mean by "reining it in" concerning Cowboy Golf? Along with wrestling, it's our best athletic program. Any way you measure it - positive attention to OSU, competitive performance, academic performance, culture and compliance, etc. - it's a top program. It is already under the control of the OSU athletic department. If it ain't broke, why "rein it in"?
I believe he was only referring to that source of revenue - in the context of revenue sharing.

They are a commercial business with public fee access to the course and facilities

(the other sports don't have revenue generating capability which has nothing really to do with the team)

I tend to agree with your statements, but I can see where it will be a sticky wicket

72Cowboys
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I am surprised that this post is Premium! Most everyone is disgusted with what is currently going on as being revealed by football season ticket sales. OSU and I would add Pokes Report and ALL other groups in alignment with OSU better be giving a clear message to its supporters and alumni.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Mbacker80
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RIP to all walk-ons. The era of STUDENT athletes has come to an end, and now we enter the era of absolute discrimination. You either get born in a rich, well known, highly viewed highschool city, or you will never be permitted to play sports for any D1 college. This settlement had the WORSTE lawyers. The roster limits should have never been reduced without anything forcing a requirement to permit walk on tryouts. This is a shame. This completely ruined college sports, and the fact no one stood up to examine the massive amounts highly talented athletes that get harmed by this, is disgusting. No more walk on tryouts. No more small town folk permitted to play for major schools. College is not pro league. Its the next step from HIGHSCHOOL. This should have never passed.
Robert Allen
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If it is deemed unrealistic, an NIL deal, then the CSC will void it. All schools in all four major conferences have agreed to this. The conferences, not the NCAA are ruling on outrageous NIL deals.
Robert Allen
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Walkons are going to be around for the next six years, maybe longer.
Robert Allen
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We have to make money with this site or it will fold. Enterprise and internally generated material is going to be Premium, material that is out there and everybody has will be free. We are a business.
CowboyKip
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So the CSC voids the deal but the booster pays the kid anyway. Now what?
RodeoPoke
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CowboyKip said:

So the CSC voids the deal but the booster pays the kid anyway. Now what?
there are penalties, including expulsion.

NJAggie
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CowboyKip said:

So the CSC voids the deal but the booster pays the kid anyway. Now what?
Conferences could withhold money from TV payouts as penalties probably as well. So there are teeth, and a desire to control the flow of cash.
Robert Allen
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Yes, they are saying that penalties will be stiff. They have to be.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6412743/2025/06/09/bryan-seeley-career-csc-mlb/
CowboyKip
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RA this link is asking for a subscription.
RodeoPoke
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CowboyKip said:

RA this link is asking for a subscription.

Perhaps the most complex challenge will be evaluating NIL deals. The settlement allowed for the creation of an "NIL clearinghouse" to vet any deal over $600 offered by a collective, booster, or brand with a strong association to a particular school. Deloitte has created software to operate the clearinghouse, called NIL Go, that will take multiple factors into account to determine whether the deal represents fair-market value: the relationship between the "payor" and the school; whether the athlete "sells a good or service" in exchange for the money; and whether the money offered is "commensurate" with other NIL deals.

A deal would receive one of three decisions: cleared, not cleared, or requires more information. If not cleared, players could re-do the deal and resubmit it, cancel it, submit it for appeal through a neutral arbiter, or proceed with the deal. But if they proceed with it, they could be subject to penalties handed down by the CSC, including "loss of eligibility," the website says. ACC commissioner Jim Phillips said Monday that the commissioners had not decided on specific punishments, noting that those would be up to Seeley.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/there-s-a-new-nil-enforcement-entity-in-college-sports-it-s-not-the-ncaa/ar-AA1GnIK4?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=cc0ab0af68534e608c050e2f099f5a71&ei=90

Robert Allen
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I like the hiring of Seely, but the College Sports Commission, even with their NIL Go software, will have a very hard time. A deal is disapproved and then the deal goes under the table like all those other decades and decades of inappropriate activity. Seely has former law enforcement agents with boots on the ground in every MLB market. he won't have that across the major college landscape. I truly believe the only way to keep schools on the straight and narrow and the up and up is to threaten almost obscene punishments like multi-year shut downs of football programs. We'll see because any semblance of a level playing field is on the line.
CowboyKip
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The CSC has to have "boots on the ground" investigators or the approval process is meaningless.
Mbacker80
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"Oklahoma State Football - TRYOUTS

Due to the House Settlement - Oklahoma State is not currently holding tryouts in the fall of 2025. "

Walk ons have been cancelled, indefinitely. They will not be around for 6 more years, its over. The cancellation of walk ons has created actual discrimination. If you are born in a small town, you won't get noticed, won't get recruited, and are told you are not allowed to play for your dream school. All because of this settlement and the fact they made it all about money and no one bothered to stand up for 2/3 of america that get harmed by it.
RodeoPoke
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Mbacker80 said:

"Oklahoma State Football - TRYOUTS

Due to the House Settlement - Oklahoma State is not currently holding tryouts in the fall of 2025. "

Walk ons have been cancelled, indefinitely. They will not be around for 6 more years, its over. The cancellation of walk ons has created actual discrimination. If you are born in a small town, you won't get noticed, won't get recruited, and are told you are not allowed to play for your dream school. All because of this settlement and the fact they made it all about money and no one bothered to stand up for 2/3 of america that get harmed by it.

WTH?

was this supposed to be humor?
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