Oklahoma State Finds Transfer Portal Quarterback Match in Alan Bowman

MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

NJAggie said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Well unfortunately that option is really off the table. You now have to try and win now every year. Taking a rebuilding year is just not possible. We lost what 17 players going 7-6, how many do you think bolt if we go 5-7 or 4-8?

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It seems from the outside, I am someone with no inside knowledge, that it is off the table because we are choosing it to be off the table and that decision is something I think is worth voicing opposition to.

I get what you are saying, but my initial reaction is that I don't think it is a for sure thing that Alan is 10% better than Garrett. Alan has been a very long cold cfb winter, and it feels like many are okay with this because his only good game in the last 3 years came in a game against us. If it's within that 10% threshold, then Alan isn't enough to be boosting the team by a couple of wins, leading me to rather play Garrett for his experience anyway. I would happily change my tune if the bridge QB was someone a bit more heralded by the CFB community at large.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

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I think that's a slippery slope fallacy. To be honest, we saw with Jabbar and Cobb that they got offers before in the portal. Anyone can (and debatably should) be looking for the best deal for them at all times. Not taking Sanders back isn't going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle of these guys looking out for themselves. In fact, I honestly think it would show strong culture and maturity for someone to test the portal and realize that OSU is the place for them after all.

MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

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I think that's a slippery slope fallacy. To be honest, we saw with Jabbar and Cobb that they got offers before in the portal. Anyone can (and debatably should) be looking for the best deal for them at all times. Not taking Sanders back isn't going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle of these guys looking out for themselves. In fact, I honestly think it would show strong culture and maturity for someone to test the portal and realize that OSU is the place for them after all.

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Respectfully, your cat is insane.

Jabbar and Cobb got offers before they went into the portal? How do you know that, and if so, so what? If you give players a "free" look at other opportunities, they'll take it. Instead of what we should probably expect, 10-15 players to the portal every year, we'd have 40(?) or more go to the portal if there's no downside. Sure, some of them would want to come back, but how many and when? That's an unmanageable situation for the coaches.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

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I think that's a slippery slope fallacy. To be honest, we saw with Jabbar and Cobb that they got offers before in the portal. Anyone can (and debatably should) be looking for the best deal for them at all times. Not taking Sanders back isn't going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle of these guys looking out for themselves. In fact, I honestly think it would show strong culture and maturity for someone to test the portal and realize that OSU is the place for them after all.

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Respectfully, your cat is insane.

Jabbar and Cobb got offers before they went into the portal? How do you know that, and if so, so what? If you give players a "free" look at other opportunities, they'll take it. Instead of what we should probably expect, 10-15 players to the portal every year, we'd have 40(?) or more go to the portal if there's no downside. Sure, some of them would want to come back, but how many and when? That's an unmanageable situation for the coaches.

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Well, RA did report that A&M was reaching out to Cobb before he entered, didn't he?

I don't think you have to treat all players equally, the market won't. What you do for Spence, you don't have to do for everyone else.

MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

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I think that's a slippery slope fallacy. To be honest, we saw with Jabbar and Cobb that they got offers before in the portal. Anyone can (and debatably should) be looking for the best deal for them at all times. Not taking Sanders back isn't going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle of these guys looking out for themselves. In fact, I honestly think it would show strong culture and maturity for someone to test the portal and realize that OSU is the place for them after all.

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Respectfully, your cat is insane.

Jabbar and Cobb got offers before they went into the portal? How do you know that, and if so, so what? If you give players a "free" look at other opportunities, they'll take it. Instead of what we should probably expect, 10-15 players to the portal every year, we'd have 40(?) or more go to the portal if there's no downside. Sure, some of them would want to come back, but how many and when? That's an unmanageable situation for the coaches.

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Well, RA did report that A&M was reaching out to Cobb before he entered, didn't he?

I don't think you have to treat all players equally, the market won't. What you do for Spence, you don't have to do for everyone else.

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So, you let selected players return? That's a recipe for everyone WANTING to leave. My goodness how short sighted.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

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My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

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I think that's a slippery slope fallacy. To be honest, we saw with Jabbar and Cobb that they got offers before in the portal. Anyone can (and debatably should) be looking for the best deal for them at all times. Not taking Sanders back isn't going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle of these guys looking out for themselves. In fact, I honestly think it would show strong culture and maturity for someone to test the portal and realize that OSU is the place for them after all.

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Respectfully, your cat is insane.

Jabbar and Cobb got offers before they went into the portal? How do you know that, and if so, so what? If you give players a "free" look at other opportunities, they'll take it. Instead of what we should probably expect, 10-15 players to the portal every year, we'd have 40(?) or more go to the portal if there's no downside. Sure, some of them would want to come back, but how many and when? That's an unmanageable situation for the coaches.

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Well, RA did report that A&M was reaching out to Cobb before he entered, didn't he?

I don't think you have to treat all players equally, the market won't. What you do for Spence, you don't have to do for everyone else.

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So, you let selected players return? That's a recipe for everyone WANTING to leave. My goodness how short sighted.

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Yes, I definitely would. Respectfully disagree with your assessment.

MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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Honestly, I think this is a bit of a disaster

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I guess Toby has a plan?

---

My ideal handling of the circumstances would be to bring SS back. I am very low on Bowman, I don't think he'll elevate a team to a win total that makes it worth not playing Rangel to get him to Gundy earmarked 20 game mark faster.

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Of course if you bring Sanders back, next year every player will want to go in the portal seeking either a better opportunity or NIL$$$. If it's not there, they'll just want to come back. How the heck can a coaching staff manage that nightmare?

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I think that's a slippery slope fallacy. To be honest, we saw with Jabbar and Cobb that they got offers before in the portal. Anyone can (and debatably should) be looking for the best deal for them at all times. Not taking Sanders back isn't going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle of these guys looking out for themselves. In fact, I honestly think it would show strong culture and maturity for someone to test the portal and realize that OSU is the place for them after all.

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Respectfully, your cat is insane.

Jabbar and Cobb got offers before they went into the portal? How do you know that, and if so, so what? If you give players a "free" look at other opportunities, they'll take it. Instead of what we should probably expect, 10-15 players to the portal every year, we'd have 40(?) or more go to the portal if there's no downside. Sure, some of them would want to come back, but how many and when? That's an unmanageable situation for the coaches.

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Well, RA did report that A&M was reaching out to Cobb before he entered, didn't he?

I don't think you have to treat all players equally, the market won't. What you do for Spence, you don't have to do for everyone else.

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So, you let selected players return? That's a recipe for everyone WANTING to leave. My goodness how short sighted.

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Yes, I definitely would. Respectfully disagree with your assessment.

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Of the 4,000 or more players that have entered the portal since its inception, and the 1,500 is so that never found a home, how many have returned to their school? I know of two. That should tell you how most coaches are approaching portal entrants.