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Mike Gundy Explains Transfer Portal Correction and Curiosity with Coach Prime's Strategy

August 7, 2023
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STILLWATER – The scoreboard has been repeated so many times. Oklahoma State lost quarterback Spencer Sanders, receivers Bryson Green and John Paul Richardson, running back Dominic Richardson, defensive end Trace Ford, linebacker Mason Cobb, and more. The Cowboys picked up quarterback Alan Bowman; receivers De’Zhaun Stribling, Arland Bruce IV, and Leon Johnson III; running back Elijah Collins, defensive end Anthony Goodlow, and linebacker Justin Wright.

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Mike Gundy Explains Transfer Portal Correction and Curiosity with Coach Prime's Strategy

11,489 Views | 33 Replies | Last: 1 yr ago by GumbyFromPokeyLand
Pokes4158
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So we offer but don't recruit the best players. We offer they don't show interest and then we give up. Plain and simple. Also we don't land 5 stars. Period. Let's call it like it is Robert. So awesome job calling out the fans and using bs to back it up
Pokes4158
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Isn't that what recruiting is? Showing a potential recruit what the program has to offer? Recruiting… offering. Different things
Pokes4158
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This is bs reporting lol you just lie and then call out fans what the hell is that?
Orangeheart72
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Appreciate your story and the info Robert. You are part of the reason we enjoy the OSU family so much. We pick up your show in our RV in Colorado.
TXPokeEnding
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I wasn't going to weigh in, but I don't want Robert to think Pokes4158 is the only voice out there. I enjoy your reporting and insights.
Pokes4158
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Y'all are weak and a part of the problem. I guess bs sells tho y'all just made that apparent
aggie1
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It proves there are a few fans that lack the brain power to make effective decisions with the available resources. These fans, if they really are, probably have a mess of a life and can't think for themselves.
Robert Allen
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The good thing is everybody gets to express their opinion as long as they do it without being hateful. I respect that right. They do more than offer. A prospect offered is going to get phone calls, generally a school visit, and if they show no interest then you have to move on. Time management is a major criteria in successful recruiting. Waste time on prospects that won't come to your school and you often miss out on some good ones thatwould come to your school. Its' a part of the process.
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4158 sounds like the idiot that called RA's show last week and acted like Spencer was Joe Burrow or something. There's plenty of negative hives to hang out in.
Joe Khatib
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Osufenceman said:

4158 sounds like the idiot that called RA's show last week and acted like Spencer was Joe Burrow or something. There's plenty of negative hives to hang out in.
He used to go by the moniker "Cowboy RED"!!!!! We have t even played the first darn game yet and it is already starting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pokes4158
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Sounds like we need to get better recruiters. What about the 5 stars you referred to?
Pokes4158
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I'll call bs when I see it. It's that simple. You pay for a service and it would be cool for it to have value for fans instead of scrutiny. Robert basically called out fans that don't accept our low standard way of recruiting. The robot fans just take it in and do realize the author was trashing them
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I had to put that idiot on ignore almost immediately after I joined this site.

Eddy Hackleman
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Good stuff, I appreciate the insight. The content provided here is second to none. I have been in quite a few of these types of sites. In life, there are always glass-half-empty versus glass-half-full perceptions. But there is something you should think about. Recruits and their families read boards. Some like me even subscribe to the pay side. What perception do you want them to have of the University? It is okay to have opinions. But to bash coaches, the staff here or to bash a recruit because of his ranking, offers or exposure is not a good look. Especially when something is written about them on the free side. At the end of the day, rankings and stars are out the door when they begin their college career. Some have it some don't. You can tell by the banners hanging in the Sherman Smith Training Center that Coach Gundy & Staff have got it right more than they have got it wrong with recruits. If you would have asked me 6 months ago I would have told you my son was going to be a Baylor Bear. But because of the job that Coach Gundy, Coach Dickey & others have done we are going to be a Cowboy and we are proud of it. The way the Coaches & their wives have treated my son during his recruitment is like none other. You have something special here in Stillwater do not take it for granted. You don't know what you have until it is gone. Sorry for the editorial, these are just my thoughts. #GoPokes
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ehack69 said:

Good stuff, I appreciate the insight. The content provided here is second to none. I have been in quite a few of these types of sites. In life, there are always glass-half-empty versus glass-half-full perceptions. But there is something you should think about. Recruits and their families read boards. Some like me even subscribe to the pay side. What perception do you want them to have of the University? It is okay to have opinions. But to bash coaches, the staff here or to bash a recruit because of his ranking, offers or exposure is not a good look. Especially when something is written about them on the free side. At the end of the day, rankings and stars are out the door when they begin their college career. Some have it some don't. You can tell by the banners hanging in the Sherman Smith Training Center that Coach Gundy & Staff have got it right more than they have got it wrong with recruits. If you would have asked me 6 months ago I would have told you my son was going to be a Baylor Bear. But because of the job that Coach Gundy, Coach Dickey & others have done we are going to be a Cowboy and we are proud of it. The way the Coaches & their wives have treated my son during his recruitment is like none other. You have something special here in Stillwater do not take it for granted. You don't know what you have until it is gone. Sorry for the editorial, these are just my thoughts. #GoPokes
Thank you....

it's definitely worth repeating
Pokes4158
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If a recruit would pass on a school because a fan said recruiting isn't very good on a forum then it's likely he isn't the type of kid we need.
Orangeheart72
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I can assure you Robert wasn't trashing anyone. And it doesn't affect the vast majority of us when he refers to folks in denial as again, the majority of OSU fans know how far this program has arisen and how good Gundy's Cowboys have been nationally for the last dozen years. We also could care less if Malcolm Rodriguez was a 5 star in the view of OU tied media in Oklahoma. We're just glad he's been a hit within the NFL and that the Cowboys have averaged 2nd place in the Big XII behind only OU and 4 places above those 5 star loaded Longhorns who have 3 or 4 times our financial resources.
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Pokes4158 said:

I'll call bs when I see it. It's that simple. You pay for a service and it would be cool for it to have value for fans instead of scrutiny. Robert basically called out fans that don't accept our low standard way of recruiting. The robot fans just take it in and do realize the author was trashing them
OK TROLL, But hey you pay $ 100.00 a year which GOES IN ROBERTS POCKET!!! LOLOLOLOL!
Pistolp
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We're talking about 17-18 year old kids that tend to place a lot of reliability to what they read on the internet, including sites like this.
Pokes4158
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My point exactly. You pay for the subscription. You expect to read insight about the sports programs at osu. Not someone making up narratives and false facts then blasting the fans for it. So exactly why I said it's bs reporting. In the old days they called it a lack of integrity in writing. What are you confused about? You're mad I called out Robert but haven't acknowledged once what it was about. This would be a proper time to mind your own business.
Robert Allen
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I don't agree with him and I did report with quotes to back it up. Yes, I said some fan disagree and complain with Gundy and His staff's recruiting, but nobody at Oklahoma State has ever done it better. Also, Oklahoma State has to deal with it's own dynamics and Gundy has learned well what thos are and how to deal with them. If Pokes4158 isn't satisfield then that is his story and I'm sure he will tell it in these comments, already has some.
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You see what you're doing there? Of course I'm in the comments why bring that up? That's my point lol why add in the little snide things? Why do fans have to be in denial if they have an opinion? You said we land blue chips. 4 stars and some 5 stars but mostly 3 stars. What 5 star kids? None. So why lie Robert? Why say things that have no purpose?
Robert Allen
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Bobby Reed, Dez Bryant, that running back from Abilene that flaked out. Those are the ones I can remember right now. I'm not lying and I'm not a liar.
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Robert Allen said:

Bobby Reed, Dez Bryant, that running back from Abilene that flaked out. Those are the ones I can remember right now. I'm not lying and I'm not a liar.
Yep the 5 stars have not been great on the whole, and even the 4 stars have seemed to exit early and disappear. Yet somehow we won more football games than all but 9 schools in the past decade.

Maybe I'm crazy, but that sounds like recruiting has been pretty solid.
Joe Khatib
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NJAggie said:

Robert Allen said:

Bobby Reed, Dez Bryant, that running back from Abilene that flaked out. Those are the ones I can remember right now. I'm not lying and I'm not a liar.
Yep the 5 stars have not been great on the whole, and even the 4 stars have seemed to exit early and disappear. Yet somehow we won more football games than all but 9 schools in the past decade.

Maybe I'm crazy, but that sounds like recruiting has been pretty solid.
Nope you are right on the money! It isn't just recruiting the player into OSU but ALSO HOW YOU DEVELOP THEM AND GUNDY AND THE STAFF GET AN A IN THAT DEPARTMENT!!!
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Pokes4158 said:

You see what you're doing there? Of course I'm in the comments why bring that up? That's my point lol why add in the little snide things? Why do fans have to be in denial if they have an opinion? You said we land blue chips. 4 stars and some 5 stars but mostly 3 stars. What 5 star kids? None. So why lie Robert? Why say things that have no purpose?
GET HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pokes4158
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Fair enough. Didn't think we were talking about guys 15 years ago. So maybe say we used to land one here and there. We don't land them anymore and haven't in a very long time. Misleading but not a lie
Pokes4158
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Also none of those 5 stars came because of this staff. So in a way still kind of a lie
Pokes4158
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So if we have offered so many blue chip guys over all these years but haven't landed very many at all especially if we do the ratio then why are fans in denial? The proof is there. This coaching staff strikes out majorly. Our best players were 4 star kids. So explain that. If a fan questions our recruiting of the star players how would that fan be in denial?
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The reference to denail was not over stars but over failue in recruiting and the program not achieving at a high level, which they have recruied well because they have achieved at the highest level for the longest stretch of time in Oklahoma State football history.
Robert Allen
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You can say what ever you like about me. That is fine. You are a paid subscriber and I'm okay with it. I'm ending this argument from my end so as I can work on other stories for the site. I will emphatically close with you can call me plenty of things, but I'M NOT A LIAR!
Pokes4158
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Again twisting the narrative. I don't know a fan that says we haven't achieved wins or won at a high level. Recruiting is the problem most fans complain about. Maybe you aren't lying Robert but you are definitely twisting the truth to fit a narrative while also bashing the fans that have a recruiting opinion you don't like. I would suggest report facts and not opinions. Don't forget to talk crap on your radio show otherwise the conversation wouldn't be complete.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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Pokes4158 said:

Again twisting the narrative. I don't know a fan that says we haven't achieved wins or won at a high level. Recruiting is the problem most fans complain about. Maybe you aren't lying Robert but you are definitely twisting the truth to fit a narrative while also bashing the fans that have a recruiting opinion you don't like. I would suggest report facts and not opinions. Don't forget to talk crap on your radio show otherwise the conversation wouldn't be complete.


A little tutorial. When you have your pick of schools (which most every 5 and 4 star do), why would you pick a school like OSU that's without a championship history, is out of the way, has no big time city amenities, is playing in a second tier conference, has average academics, with second tier NIL opportunities, and is no media darling? Because we offered, kept in contact, promised playing time and got on our hands and knees and begged?

Get real, dude.
True wisdom is knowing what you don't know.
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