Weiberg Speaks Carefully About Latest Conference Realignment and What's Shaking Now

The "introductions" with a new commissioner should have happened last year and not now as the entire college football world shifts and shifts without OSU. Washington, Oregan, UCLA and USC to the B1G. The SEC will take the best of the ACC. Where does that leave OSU? Probably a different level of football from the two 40 team super conferences. Why did this happen? Started back when the Big 12 lost NE, MO, CO and Texas A&M and then abdicated leadership to Texas to do anything they want. Anyone who ever thought the Shorthorns and Sewerners would look out for "little brother" was a damn fool. This is the real world with real money and it is survival of the fittest. OSU, no matter what has happened the past 20 years, is not considered worthy. The "Bowlsby" save face addition of the four teams was a weak move, by a weak leader in a weak conference. The main problem was a lack of strong leadership that was visionary and proactive at the conference level and university level since that upheaval over a decade ago. Do we deserve better? Like William Munny tells Little Bill (Unforgiven)...."Deserves got nothing to do with it."....Hope Shrum and Weiberg can do some magic. Good luck to them, GO POKES!!!!

THANKS FOR THE THERAPY SESSION!!!

I'm still not convinced that there won't still be 3 or 4 super conferences.

The NCAA has to collapse or the ACC has to disband (or expand) for any serious changes to occur.

Assuming that there will not be 5 power conferences due to the dwindling number of P5 teams, I could see a couple of viable scenarios emerge that result in 4 power conferences.

The B12 takes 2 or 4 teams from the PAC to create the Big16 (sans OU/UT).

and/or - the ACC takes a couple of more schools (perhaps OSU and WVU) and the old Pac/B12 form some new league.

both of these scenarios would seem to keep those leagues viable.

At this point I think it would be best of the B12 consume some of the old PAC teams and seal up the West Coast market

I think you may be correct. Maybe four 20 team conferences with the conference champions meeting for the championship. I still am ticked at how many times this conference is behind and getting their arse handed to them. No proactive approach...no aggressiveness in shaping the future instead of having the future shaped for you...and very little vision with only straight line thinking. GO POKES!!!

I don't post very often, but this is a HUGE move. My personal belief is that SOME Big 12 schools and SOME Pac 12 schools go together to form a Big (whatever) to be part of a 4 conference configuration with the Big 10, SEC, and ACC. Included in my mind are OSU, ISU, KSU, Baylor, Houston, Tech, TCU, BYU, Utah, Colo, Arizona, ASU, Wash, Ore, Ore St, and Kansas. This gives you a 16 team conference of really strong schools regarding enrollment, tradition, and presence. I do not think the Pokes are in as strong a position nationally as many on this board seem to believe. Perception outside of the Big 12 conference does not think much of our beloved university.

SenorPoke said:

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I don't post very often, but this is a HUGE move. My personal belief is that SOME Big 12 schools and SOME Pac 12 schools go together to form a Big (whatever) to be part of a 4 conference configuration with the Big 10, SEC, and ACC. Included in my mind are OSU, ISU, KSU, Baylor, Houston, Tech, TCU, BYU, Utah, Colo, Arizona, ASU, Wash, Ore, Ore St, and Kansas. This gives you a 16 team conference of really strong schools regarding enrollment, tradition, and presence. I do not think the Pokes are in as strong a position nationally as many on this board seem to believe. Perception outside of the Big 12 conference does not think much of our beloved university.

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I like your configuration but you already have West Virginia in the current conference and also invited UCF and Cincinnati! so unless everything blows up or it expands to 20 schools per conference, Colorado, Arizona, Arizona State and Oregon State are hanging out on the line.

Yeah a merger is more likely at this point. But lots of chatter coming out of KSU and other spots that ASU & UA are already negotiating their move.

This being a holiday weekend I think the PAC leadership voted for expansion to give themselves room to breath and we'll get a better feel for what they're thinking next week.

NJAggie said:

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Yeah a merger is more likely at this point. But lots of chatter coming out of KSU and other spots that ASU & UA are already negotiating their move.

This being a holiday weekend I think the PAC leadership voted for expansion to give themselves room to breath and we'll get a better feel for what they're thinking next week.

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Are they trying to make a play to join the Big XII? I have heard Robert comment that if the Big XII was actually trying to get to 20 to be part of the SUPER CONFERENCES that you could see the remaining PAC and Big XII with the four new members merge! You would be looking at four huge media markets added with Phoenix, Seattle, the San Fransisco Bay area and I guess you could count LA even though there is no USC or UCLA in the mix.

Joe Khatib said:

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NJAggie said:

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Yeah a merger is more likely at this point. But lots of chatter coming out of KSU and other spots that ASU & UA are already negotiating their move.

This being a holiday weekend I think the PAC leadership voted for expansion to give themselves room to breath and we'll get a better feel for what they're thinking next week.

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Are they trying to make a play to join the Big XII? I have heard Robert comment that if the Big XII was actually trying to get to 20 to be part of the SUPER CONFERENCES that you could see the remaining PAC and Big XII with the four new members merge! You would be looking at four huge media markets added with Phoenix, Seattle, the San Fransisco Bay area and I guess you could count LA even though there is no USC or UCLA in the mix.

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Yes that's what the chatter is. So yes getting the league brings a lot of big markets where they don't watch much cfb. So it's a mixed blessing. I do think it still gives us more value overall. But I'm not in the room so 4 may be the limit. That gets more difficult. There is also threats in Oregon & Washington to legally tie the state schools together for conference.

I think we could see some movement next week, as waiting to see what bringing in SDSU & Boise would do to contract negotiations that just got thrown out the window. If ND agrees to go B1G then ACC could be a target as SEC & B1G could tag team them and get Big XII to assist with the best schools they don't want as a disbandment vote by the ACC is the quickest way out of the GoR. Now that's a big move and lots of folks involved so don't know if it could even be pulled off before the courts got involved.

The big think is I think the chances are very good the Big XII comes out of this in better shape than we were in on Wednesday.