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Spencer Sanders Goes in the Transfer Portal

December 5, 2022
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STILLWATER – The past few weeks have been filled with a lot of conjecture and guessing as Oklahoma State quarterback Spencer Sanders has one more season available to compete. He has played coy about what his plans were saying he would announce it when he knew. He waited until over a week after he could have put himself in the NCAA Transfer Portal as a graduate transfer before making the announcement on social media midday on Monday, Dec. 5, 2022.

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Sanders leaving represents the end of an era in Oklahoma State football with Sanders as the starting quarterback for the better part of four seasons. Sanders had an up and down career that also included missing a number of games to injuries, but for the most part when he played he was sensational making plays with his arm and his legs. 

His best moments seem to come in bowl games as he earned MVP awards in both the Cheez-It Bowl win in 2020 over Miami, Fla. completing 27-of-40 passing for 305-yards and four touchdowns. He also rushed for 45-yards in the 37-34 win. 

His greatest moment came in the 2022 Fiesta Bowl comeback win over Notre Dame as he completed 34-of-51 passing for 371-yards and four touchdowns with 125-yards rushing.

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Sanders as MVP in the Fiesta Bowl win over Notre Dame.

His total offense of 496-yards set bowl marks for Oklahoma State and the Fiesta Bowl. 

Sanders came out of Denton, Texas and Ryan High School having taken his team deep into the Texas High School playoffs three straight seasons. Twice his season ended in the playoffs with a torn ACL injury. He came back from both injuries even better than before and never had a problem with his knees in college. It was more shoulders and ribs. He missed a couple of games to start the 2020 season and he also missed the opener of the 2021 season.

As a starter, Sanders guided Oklahoma State to a 31-11 record in his time as the starter. He also came in late in the third quarter to rescue the Cowboys to a win this season against Iowa State. 

Sanders finished the 2022 season completing 212-of-368 passing for 57.6 percent with 2,642-yards and 17 touchdowns and nine interceptions. For his career he complee 765-of-1,253 passing for 9,553-yards with 67 touchdowns and 40 interceptions.

There is no telling where Sanders will wind up as he has the one-year of eligibility remaining. Much speculation has been out there about Penn State, but the Nittany Lions have a five-star quarterback recruit Drew Allar that was a freshman this past season and red-shirted. It would make sense he would wind up somewhere else.

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Garret Rangel at Kansas in his first start.

Oklahoma State has four-star freshman Garret Rangel and red-shirt freshman Gunnar Gundy. Incoming in the next recruiting class, set to sign in December, and to enroll and be on campus in the spring is Nebraska all-time record setting quarterback and Player of the Year in Gretna, Neb. star Zane Flores.

Rangel finished this regular season completing 45-of-84 passing for 53.5 percent as a true freshman and he threw for two touchdowns and three interceptions. 

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Zane Flores in state championship game.

Flores in his final season at Gretna High School led his team to the State Championship Game in the highest class in Nebraska and he completed 235-of-359 passing for 65.5 percent and 3,117-yards with 31 touchdowns and seven interceptions. An Elite 11 Quarterback competition attendee, Flores completed 724-of-1,085 passes in his prep career for 9,163-yards. The completions and yardage are records for the state. He also threw for 82 touchdowns with only 24 interceptions. 

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Spencer Sanders Goes in the Transfer Portal

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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 11:40a, 1/4/23
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CaliforniaCowboy said:
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Look at it any way you want, don't care.

I'm just reiterating what Gundy is on record saying (reportedly) and wondering how he would approach this situation.
I know what you are saying, and I'm saying it's not true, and I care about truth.

you're going to have to dig up that "report", reportedly.



Replays of RAs radio show aren't available. Others on here can back me up if they choose to do so.
yeah, that's what I thought..... we need the QUOTE, to avoid lost in translation or paraphrasing.

You're saying he only told this to RA in private, and nobody else "reported" it.... right?
No. I'm saying RA said on his radio show that Gundy's approach to players entering the portal is "if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want them". This is really simple, and really not that hard to believe even if you personally didn't hear it. Was that a direct Gundy quote, or the essence of what Gundy has communicated to RA when discussing the portal? Don't know, don't care. It is what it is.
no, no, no... he said that with regard to them playing in the bowl game. Besides, he did not say if they do want to be here and ask to come back that we won't take them... which is what you said and what I challenged.

now you're back peddling, making a different statement, an now it's the "essence" of what he said, when my whole challenge was to your exact claim, not the essence of it

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In reply to CaliforniaCowboy • 11:46a, 1/4/23
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:


Look at it any way you want, don't care.

I'm just reiterating what Gundy is on record saying (reportedly) and wondering how he would approach this situation.
I know what you are saying, and I'm saying it's not true, and I care about truth.

you're going to have to dig up that "report", reportedly.



Replays of RAs radio show aren't available. Others on here can back me up if they choose to do so.
yeah, that's what I thought..... we need the QUOTE, to avoid lost in translation or paraphrasing.

You're saying he only told this to RA in private, and nobody else "reported" it.... right?
No. I'm saying RA said on his radio show that Gundy's approach to players entering the portal is "if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want them". This is really simple, and really not that hard to believe even if you personally didn't hear it. Was that a direct Gundy quote, or the essence of what Gundy has communicated to RA when discussing the portal? Don't know, don't care. It is what it is.
no, no, no... he said that with regard to them playing in the bowl game. Besides, he did not say if they do want to be here and ask to come back that we won't take them... which is what you said and what I challenged.

now you're back peddling, making a different statement, an now it's the "essence" of what he said, when my whole challenge was to your exact claim, not the essence of it

What RA said about Gundy's approach to the portal was separate and apart from what Gundy said about participation in bowl games. I heard it, you didn't.
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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 11:59a, 1/4/23
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:


Look at it any way you want, don't care.

I'm just reiterating what Gundy is on record saying (reportedly) and wondering how he would approach this situation.
I know what you are saying, and I'm saying it's not true, and I care about truth.

you're going to have to dig up that "report", reportedly.



Replays of RAs radio show aren't available. Others on here can back me up if they choose to do so.
yeah, that's what I thought..... we need the QUOTE, to avoid lost in translation or paraphrasing.

You're saying he only told this to RA in private, and nobody else "reported" it.... right?
No. I'm saying RA said on his radio show that Gundy's approach to players entering the portal is "if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want them". This is really simple, and really not that hard to believe even if you personally didn't hear it. Was that a direct Gundy quote, or the essence of what Gundy has communicated to RA when discussing the portal? Don't know, don't care. It is what it is.
no, no, no... he said that with regard to them playing in the bowl game. Besides, he did not say if they do want to be here and ask to come back that we won't take them... which is what you said and what I challenged.

now you're back peddling, making a different statement, an now it's the "essence" of what he said, when my whole challenge was to your exact claim, not the essence of it

What RA said about Gundy's approach to the portal was separate and apart from what Gundy said about participation in bowl games. I heard it, you didn't.
but now you can't seem to remember what was said.

You're stating that Robert reported that Gundy said a kid cannot come back if he enters the portal. That's what you said.

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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 12:14p, 1/4/23
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If true, it will be interesting how Gundy approaches the situation. I understand heretofore, when a player tells the coaching staff they want to be put in the portal, the player is basically told "good luck, no turning back". Thought being - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him.

Will Gundy make an exception?

I first said the above. I supported that statement with what RA reported on his radio show. RA reported that Gundy's approach to the portal is - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him. What are the coaches' EXACT words to players wanting to be placed in the portal? Who knows? What were Gundy's EXACT words to RA? Who knows? But the essence is contained above. This is so simple; you just want to argue.
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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 12:43p, 1/4/23
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
If true, it will be interesting how Gundy approaches the situation. I understand heretofore, when a player tells the coaching staff they want to be put in the portal, the player is basically told "good luck, no turning back". Thought being - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him.

Will Gundy make an exception?

I first said the above. I supported that statement with what RA reported on his radio show. RA reported that Gundy's approach to the portal is - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him. What are the coaches' EXACT words to players wanting to be placed in the portal? Who knows? What were Gundy's EXACT words to RA? Who knows? But the essence is contained above. This is so simple; you just want to argue.
I know, I can read.

You asked a question about an exception. There is no exception.

If he asked to return, then he wants to be here... correct? He (Gundy) was saying, with that statement, what all bosses say, we don't need former employees/players poisoning the workplace. So once they announce, then they are gone, they are no longer part of the team.

The quote SAYS NOTHING about wanting to return, you made that part up...

If (we don't even know the if) Sanders asked to return, then he wants to be here, no exception needed.

moving on to a more sane discussion
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In reply to CaliforniaCowboy • 12:59p, 1/4/23
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
If true, it will be interesting how Gundy approaches the situation. I understand heretofore, when a player tells the coaching staff they want to be put in the portal, the player is basically told "good luck, no turning back". Thought being - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him.

Will Gundy make an exception?

I first said the above. I supported that statement with what RA reported on his radio show. RA reported that Gundy's approach to the portal is - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him. What are the coaches' EXACT words to players wanting to be placed in the portal? Who knows? What were Gundy's EXACT words to RA? Who knows? But the essence is contained above. This is so simple; you just want to argue.
I know, I can read.

You asked a question about an exception. There is no exception.

If he asked to return, then he wants to be here... correct? He was saying, with that statement, what all bosses say, we don't need former employees/players poisoning the workplace. So once the announce, then they are gone, they are no longer part of the team.

IT SAYS NOTHING about wanting to return, you made that part up...

If (we don't even know the if) Sanders asked to return, then he wants to be here, no exception needed.

moving on to a more sane discussion
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Sanders was reportedly (RA) making $400k here. If he wanted to leave, he was chasing NIL $$$. He either doesn't want to be here for $400k, or he wants to go elsewhere for more NIL$$$. He's not entering the portal because he's not happy here if he's looking to exit the portal and stay at OSU. So, in the end, he doesn't want to be here under the given NIL circumstances. In my view, Gundy's stance remains. You either want to be here or not. Really simple.

Moving on
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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 8:27a, 1/5/23
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
CaliforniaCowboy said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
If true, it will be interesting how Gundy approaches the situation. I understand heretofore, when a player tells the coaching staff they want to be put in the portal, the player is basically told "good luck, no turning back". Thought being - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him.

Will Gundy make an exception?

I first said the above. I supported that statement with what RA reported on his radio show. RA reported that Gundy's approach to the portal is - if a player doesn't want to be here, we don't want him. What are the coaches' EXACT words to players wanting to be placed in the portal? Who knows? What were Gundy's EXACT words to RA? Who knows? But the essence is contained above. This is so simple; you just want to argue.
I know, I can read.

You asked a question about an exception. There is no exception.

If he asked to return, then he wants to be here... correct? He was saying, with that statement, what all bosses say, we don't need former employees/players poisoning the workplace. So once the announce, then they are gone, they are no longer part of the team.

IT SAYS NOTHING about wanting to return, you made that part up...

If (we don't even know the if) Sanders asked to return, then he wants to be here, no exception needed.

moving on to a more sane discussion
Last comment.

Sanders was reportedly (RA) making $400k here. If he wanted to leave, he was chasing NIL $$$. He either doesn't want to be here for $400k, or he wants to go elsewhere for more NIL$$$. He's not entering the portal because he's not happy here if he's looking to exit the portal and stay at OSU. So, in the end, he doesn't want to be here under the given NIL circumstances. In my view, Gundy's stance remains. You either want to be here or not. Really simple.

Moving on
it's simple all right, if you want to return, then you want to be here. Period. You don't get to redefine what "want" means.

Wanted is past tense. He wanted to leave. Now he (possibly) wants to be here. Want is present tense.

you simply don't get to change the definition of the dictionary words for your inane positions.
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8:30a, 1/5/23
FWIW, Spencer Sanders "liked" a tweet that criticized Gundy for saying no to a request by Sanders to return to the program.
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10:43a, 1/5/23
RA just confirmed Sanders did ask to come back but was denied. Further, Spencer advised Gundy beforehand he would be going into the portal. After 9 practices Spencer contacted R. Glass with interest in playing in the bowl game. The coaches (Gundy I understand) stated you've decided to move on, so have we.

RA further confirmed Gundy's approach to the portal. If you start something, you're expected to finish. And if you leave, there are consequences. The consequences being if you decide to leave, there's no turning back.
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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 11:19a, 1/5/23
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
RA just confirmed Sanders did ask to come back but was denied. Further, Spencer advised Gundy beforehand he would be going into the portal. After 9 practices Spencer contacted R. Glass with interest in playing in the bowl game. The coaches (Gundy I understand) stated you've decided to move on, so have we.

RA further confirmed Gundy's approach to the portal. If you start something, you're expected to finish. And if you leave, there are consequences. The consequences being if you decide to leave, there's no turning back.
you mean like in...LIFE?
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In reply to Csquaredosu66 • 11:39a, 1/5/23
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
RA just confirmed Sanders did ask to come back but was denied. Further, Spencer advised Gundy beforehand he would be going into the portal. After 9 practices Spencer contacted R. Glass with interest in playing in the bowl game. The coaches (Gundy I understand) stated you've decided to move on, so have we.

RA further confirmed Gundy's approach to the portal. If you start something, you're expected to finish. And if you leave, there are consequences. The consequences being if you decide to leave, there's no turning back.
you mean like in...LIFE?


I don't know. But one message is clear. If you the player is prepared to abandon everyone, including boosters, that have supported you in an effort to see if someone else will pay me more money, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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In reply to GumbyFromPokeyLand • 12:00p, 1/5/23
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
Csquaredosu66 said:
GumbyFromPokeyLand said:
RA just confirmed Sanders did ask to come back but was denied. Further, Spencer advised Gundy beforehand he would be going into the portal. After 9 practices Spencer contacted R. Glass with interest in playing in the bowl game. The coaches (Gundy I understand) stated you've decided to move on, so have we.

RA further confirmed Gundy's approach to the portal. If you start something, you're expected to finish. And if you leave, there are consequences. The consequences being if you decide to leave, there's no turning back.
you mean like in...LIFE?


I don't know. But one message is clear. If you the player is prepared to abandon everyone, including boosters, that have supported you in an effort to see if someone else will pay me more money, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
i agree, but on the flip side...it is today's game.

I think NIL needs to come AFTER the season's end. All in full or installments through the spring/summer. That will keep their asses here!

Changes need to be made to the portal and NIL or this game is lost forever and the NFL is far better off than college football.
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8:50p, 1/16/23
Anyone getting the sense Spencer might opt for the NFL draft?
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10:10p, 1/16/23
With all the rookie QB's in playoffs, Sanders will probably be starting in the Super Bowl next year with the Chiefs after Mahomes gets injured. Some are claiming he can't transfer due to a Transcript issue at OSU or he would be at Auburn now.
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