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Kobe Hylton Gives Oklahoma State a Veteran Safety that Plays Physical

December 16, 2023
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STILLWATER – The first commitment for Oklahoma State out of the NCAA Transfer Portal is a native of Georgia that has played in Oklahoma before. Kobe (KT) Hylton is coming from UTEP where he earned some honors as All-Conference USA with the Miners. Last season the 6-2, 205-pound Hylton finished with 54 tackles with two fumbles caused and a fumble recovered.

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His experience playing in Oklahoma was for NEO A&M and current Oklahoma State recruiting analysts Zach Allen (then head coach at NEO) and Justin Gordan.

“This feels like home, home away from home,” Hylton said as he watched practice on his visit. “This team looks like they are serious. They’ve won a lot of games here and Coach Gundy is one of the best coaches in college football.”

“I can tell you from meeting with him, KT is a serious football player,” Gundy said of Hylton. “He didn’t ask about photo sessions, NIL, all he wanted to talk was football. I think he is a guy that just wants to play football at a high level.”

Hylton is from South Gwinnett High School in Georgia and has played at Long Island (no season), NEO A&M where he was an All-Conference player, and then UTEP had 91 tackles with four fumbles caused and a fumble recovered in his career playing home games in the Sun Bowl on the border of the USA and Mexico. 

Hylton has played against some very good competition. This season he had nine tackles, a fumble forced and a quarterback hurry against Arizona, five tackles and a fumble forced against LIberty, and last season he had eight tackles and a forced fumble in Norman against Oklahoma.

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Kobe Hylton Gives Oklahoma State a Veteran Safety that Plays Physical

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gkcummins
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Interesting - Kobe Hylton "PERSONAL STATEMENT" from his 2019 H.S. Recruiting Profile:
"I've always wanted to play collegeball. My goals are to go to a powerhouse college and hopefully play in the NFL. I think that at my position ( CB ) I love to compete, and make plays, that makes me a good candidate for any team. I'm different from other recruits because you can trust me on and off the field, good academics, and a person who is dedicated. I'm a player who loves the game of football."
https://www.ncsasports.org/football-recruiting/georgia/snellville/south-gwinnett-high-school/kobe-hylton
Legally-Lit
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Gundy needs to stop the subliminals about NIL. Kids see that. It's here and it's the new normal… Wanting to cash in on NIL does not mean a player is not "serious" as MG implies here.
aggie1
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Your assessment is childish, boring, has no basis, and is incorrect.
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Legally-Lit said:

Gundy needs to stop the subliminals about NIL. Kids see that. It's here and it's the new normal… Wanting to cash in on NIL does not mean a player is not "serious" as MG implies here.



I agree. Keep the commentary to yourself, Mike. NIL is here to stay so it's time to evolve or get left behind.
Cdub234
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People will complain about anything.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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Legally-Lit said:

Gundy needs to stop the subliminals about NIL. Kids see that. It's here and it's the new normal… Wanting to cash in on NIL does not mean a player is not "serious" as MG implies here.


Give it a rest. What's more likely?

A player focused on NIL turns out to be a less than totally serious teammate. .
Or
A player that doesn't even ask about NIL turns out to be a less than totally serious teammate.

Gundy is spot on.



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Legally-Lit
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So based on your logic, when MGor any coach and or professional negotiates for compensation or a raise, that by itself makes it more likely that he or she is less "serious" than someone who doesn't? Thats a flimsy flimsy argument.

All I'm saying is, don't disparage kids for capitalizing on leverage and getting what they feel they deserve. Most adults hope to do the same every single day of their professional lives. My performance review comes up in a few weeks. Am I not serious about work bc ill make my case for a raise? Maybe, but that by itself shouldn't lead you to conclude I am an unserious person without poor reasoning.
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Cdub234 said:

People will complain about anything.


I have a bit different take.

Some people complain about everything.
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GumbyFromPokeyLand
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Legally-Lit said:

So based on your logic, when MGor any coach and or professional negotiates for compensation or a raise, that by itself makes it more likely that he or she is less "serious" than someone who doesn't? Thats a flimsy flimsy argument.

All I'm saying is, don't disparage kids for capitalizing on leverage and getting what they feel they deserve. Most adults hope to do the same every single day of their professional lives. My performance review comes up in a few weeks. Am I not serious about work bc ill make my case for a raise? Maybe, but that by itself shouldn't lead you to conclude I am an unserious person without poor reasoning.


1. College athletes are not under contract, nor are they employed.
2. College athletes are not owed compensation.
3. I don't begrudge any kid seeking an NIL deal, but you'd have to be a complete putz if you wouldn't rather have a potential signee uninterested in NIL than one that is.
4. Any kid that talks NIL to the HC (who has nothing to do with NIL), probably isn't showing very much intelligence.
5. I'm with the HC that says he won't take a kid that face to face requests an NIL deal. No not Gundy, Nick Saban.
6. We've seen first hand what a team can accomplish (unlike last year) when they play together as a team and are less interested in personal deals.
7. As another poster pointed out(and is the leading vote-getter for post of the day), some people will complain about anything.

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Legally-Lit
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1. You changed the argument completely.
2. Most of this is irrelevant to what I said.
3. I found your assertion about being a "putz" for wanting a kid who wants NIL vs. doesn't as extremely perplexing. I'd prefer the kid that gives me the best chance to win. NIL has no affect on the on field performance of a player. Absolute ridiculous take.

I don't know what NIL did to hurt you types. I just find it unbelievable that you can discern so much from a kid wanting to be paid when he provides value to an entity making multimillions.

Its not a character flaw. It's business.
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Legally-Lit said:

1. You changed the argument completely.
2. Most of this is irrelevant to what I said.
3. I found your assertion about being a "putz" for wanting a kid who wants NIL vs. doesn't as extremely perplexing. I'd prefer the kid that gives me the best chance to win. NIL has no affect on the on field performance of a player. Absolute ridiculous take.

I don't know what NIL did to hurt you types. I just find it unbelievable that you can discern so much from a kid wanting to be paid when he provides value to an entity making multimillions.

Its not a character flaw. It's business.


Dude, if you can't understand how desirable and quite honestly refreshing it would be in this screwed up world of college football to have a kid walk in your office and simply say they want to play football for your team without mention of NIL, you're beyond help. Way beyond.

BTW, the world would be a better, happier and much more productive place if adults would first focus on accomplishments and working with people they enjoy and respect instead of money. Worked like a charm for me.
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Legally-Lit
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I see Nothing wrong with a kid saying something like that.

But when you imply that that makes him a more "serious" football player than another kid looking for NIL and you are in the business of getting kids to come play for you, I have a problem.

That's all I'm saying. He said he doesn't comment on NIL. Just wish he would stick to that.
GumbyFromPokeyLand
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I agree, there's nothing wrong with a player mentioning NIL. It is the world we live in. But to suggest Gundy is sending subliminal messages about a distaste for NIL is, quite frankly, stupid. It's no secret Gundy loves players that love football, that focus on the job, and don't get caught up in the BS outside of football. He was merely acknowledging what he likes about the kid. You're just looking for something to complain about.
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Legally-Lit
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You're not understanding my point. So this is the last go. Will try and keep it short and concise. Here we go: it's best to voice what you like about a kid without disparaging other kids that could help your team.

Happy holidays.
Roughrider
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Ollie Gordon seems pretty serious to me.
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Legally-Lit said:

So based on your logic, when MGor any coach and or professional negotiates for compensation or a raise, that by itself makes it more likely that he or she is less "serious" than someone who doesn't? Thats a flimsy flimsy argument.

All I'm saying is, don't disparage kids for capitalizing on leverage and getting what they feel they deserve. Most adults hope to do the same every single day of their professional lives. My performance review comes up in a few weeks. Am I not serious about work bc ill make my case for a raise? Maybe, but that by itself shouldn't lead you to conclude I am an unserious person without poor reasoning.
Negotiating is not a bad thing, but it says something about someone wanting a chance to improve their situation. If you have a better employment opportunity you never lead with talk about salary and vacation. You talk about the job and assume the money is going to be there. When you get to that if its not you can move on. Leading with money is never a good indication.
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NJAggie said:

Legally-Lit said:

So based on your logic, when MGor any coach and or professional negotiates for compensation or a raise, that by itself makes it more likely that he or she is less "serious" than someone who doesn't? Thats a flimsy flimsy argument.

All I'm saying is, don't disparage kids for capitalizing on leverage and getting what they feel they deserve. Most adults hope to do the same every single day of their professional lives. My performance review comes up in a few weeks. Am I not serious about work bc ill make my case for a raise? Maybe, but that by itself shouldn't lead you to conclude I am an unserious person without poor reasoning.
Negotiating is not a bad thing, but it says something about someone wanting a chance to improve their situation. If you have a better employment opportunity you never lead with talk about salary and vacation. You talk about the job and assume the money is going to be there. When you get to that if its not you can move on. Leading with money is never a good indication.


Attitude is easily 50% of the success equation in college football. But, fans generally don't get it.
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Legally-Lit
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Who said anything about leading with this or that? MG stated he (the kid) doesn't care about NIL and implied that it makes him more serious than a kid who does. Caring and leading with it in negations are not the same thing. I think you are making some assumptions there.

I'm talking mainly about the optics of a head coach saying something that could reasonable be viewed as a "shot."
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Legally-Lit said:

Who said anything about leading with this or that? MG stated he (the kid) doesn't care about NIL and implied that it makes him more serious than a kid who does. Caring and leading with it in negations are not the same thing. I think you are making some assumptions there.

I'm talking mainly about the optics of a head coach saying something that could reasonable be viewed as a "shot."
No, I think you're the one that is making the assumptions you want to attack MG. He clearly stated the kid came in and wanted to talk about the football, the opportunity. He then used the talking about NIL as the alternative. So I'd say its pretty clear MG is talking about the kid being interested in being at OSU, not simply making a pay day. But, hey I know MG is always wrong so of course it can't be logical it has to be a fever dream statement that he blasted every kid that takes NIL.
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Just like the other guy you aren't understanding what I'm saying. I'm not assuming Mike intended anything. His comments could be interpreted as taking a shot at a kid that is thinking about NIL. That's the crux. Haven't changed that since this back and forth started. lol

MG is not always wrong. I'm actually a big advocate for him. Love him. I'm just not a big enough homer to never be critica. I think he has turned the corner on portal and NIL. He's said mostly the right things since the early season struggles.
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NJAggie said:

Legally-Lit said:

Who said anything about leading with this or that? MG stated he (the kid) doesn't care about NIL and implied that it makes him more serious than a kid who does. Caring and leading with it in negations are not the same thing. I think you are making some assumptions there.

I'm talking mainly about the optics of a head coach saying something that could reasonable be viewed as a "shot."
No, I think you're the one that is making the assumptions you want to attack MG. He clearly stated the kid came in and wanted to talk about the football, the opportunity. He then used the talking about NIL as the alternative. So I'd say its pretty clear MG is talking about the kid being interested in being at OSU, not simply making a pay day. But, hey I know MG is always wrong so of course it can't be logical it has to be a fever dream statement that he blasted every kid that takes NIL.


Gundy: "I can tell you from meeting with him, KT is a serious football player," Gundy said of Hylton. "He didn't ask about photo sessions, NIL, all he wanted to talk was football. I think he is a guy that just wants to play football at a high level."

Fan: "Gundy needs to stop the subliminals about NIL. Kids see that. It's here and it's the new normal… Wanting to cash in on NIL does not mean a player is not "serious" as MG implies here."……….Further "MG stated he (the kid) doesn't care about NIL and implied that it makes him more serious than a kid who does."……..Further "His (MG) comments could be interpreted as taking a shot at a kid that is thinking about NIL."

Conclusion: Apparently we don't have to ASSUME that (1) Gundy was sending subliminals about NIL, (2) the kid doesn't care about NIL, and (3) his (MG) comments could be interpreted as taking a shot at a kid that is thinking about NIL - because these are facts (actually not facts, assumptions. SMH).

The things some fans concoct as a basis to (further) criticize the HC never ceases to amaze me. My file is voluminous.
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Legally-Lit
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Skimmed some but Not reading all that. We've had enough back and forth, Gumby.

I'm convinced you don't know what an assumption is. Anyways, GO pokes!
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Legally-Lit said:

Skimmed some but Not reading all that. We've had enough back and forth, Gumby.

I'm convinced you don't know what an assumption is. Anyways, GO pokes!
everybody has him on ignore
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RodeoPoke said:

Legally-Lit said:

Skimmed some but Not reading all that. We've had enough back and forth, Gumby.

I'm convinced you don't know what an assumption is. Anyways, GO pokes!
everybody has him on ignore


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GumbyFromPokeyLand
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Legally-Lit said:

Skimmed some but Not reading all that. We've had enough back and forth, Gumby.

I'm convinced you don't know what an assumption is. Anyways, GO pokes!


Gundy's quotes, your quotes, and the sarcastic conclusion. Not hard.
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