Kickoff Time Announced For Oklahoma State's Season Opener

This is pure insanity.

Any game played in August and September should be played at 6 or 7 pm.

I am not looking for to 1 PM but

My concern is less about the players than fans. TV dictating a 11 AM start or 1 PM start in August and September is just inviting fans to stay home.
A couple of thoughts. There are multiple reasons OSU has reduced the number of seats in the stadium. Safety, accessibility, fatter people, are some. But trying to improve the fan experience to compete with TV and people staying at home to watch their 85" TV's and having a refrigerator full of food and beverages is one issue for all schools.

thetruth said:

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My concern is less about the players than fans. TV dictating a 11 AM start or 1 PM start in August and September is just inviting fans to stay home.
A couple of thoughts. There are multiple reasons OSU has reduced the number of seats in the stadium. Safety, accessibility, fatter people, are some. But trying to improve the fan experience to compete with TV and people staying at home to watch their 85" TV's and having a refrigerator full of food and beverages is one issue for all schools.

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The game is not "on TV", it is only available on the Internet

There is no need to schedule a 1:00 game to accommodate streaming services. TOD will not necessarily impact streaming viewership.





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RodeoPoke said:

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thetruth said:

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My concern is less about the players than fans. TV dictating a 11 AM start or 1 PM start in August and September is just inviting fans to stay home.
A couple of thoughts. There are multiple reasons OSU has reduced the number of seats in the stadium. Safety, accessibility, fatter people, are some. But trying to improve the fan experience to compete with TV and people staying at home to watch their 85" TV's and having a refrigerator full of food and beverages is one issue for all schools.

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The game is not "on TV", it is only available on the Internet

There is no need to schedule a 1:00 game to accommodate streaming services. TOD will not necessarily impact streaming viewership.





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TV/Streaming, ok. One in the same. And why would't TOD impact viewership? If the game is "viewable" without going to the game, isn't it likely that some people would opt not to go to the game and sit in 100 degree heat for 4-5 hours?

thetruth said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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thetruth said:

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My concern is less about the players than fans. TV dictating a 11 AM start or 1 PM start in August and September is just inviting fans to stay home.
A couple of thoughts. There are multiple reasons OSU has reduced the number of seats in the stadium. Safety, accessibility, fatter people, are some. But trying to improve the fan experience to compete with TV and people staying at home to watch their 85" TV's and having a refrigerator full of food and beverages is one issue for all schools.

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The game is not "on TV", it is only available on the Internet

There is no need to schedule a 1:00 game to accommodate streaming services. TOD will not necessarily impact streaming viewership.

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TV/Streaming, ok. One in the same. And why would't TOD impact viewership? If the game is "viewable" without going to the game, isn't it likely that some people would opt not to go to the game and sit in 100 degree heat for 4-5 hours?

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TV and streaming are NOT the same thing. You must have both to see the game. (versus antenna, cable, satellite). If you do not subscribe to the service then you cannot view it on your TV. Not the same thing.

Unless, you're suggesting that ESPN put our game on at 1:00 (heat) trying to get our fans to stay home and add a subscription to their service. Could be. I doubt that would work, but who know with these greedy b's.

RodeoPoke said:

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thetruth said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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thetruth said:

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My concern is less about the players than fans. TV dictating a 11 AM start or 1 PM start in August and September is just inviting fans to stay home.
A couple of thoughts. There are multiple reasons OSU has reduced the number of seats in the stadium. Safety, accessibility, fatter people, are some. But trying to improve the fan experience to compete with TV and people staying at home to watch their 85" TV's and having a refrigerator full of food and beverages is one issue for all schools.

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The game is not "on TV", it is only available on the Internet

There is no need to schedule a 1:00 game to accommodate streaming services. TOD will not necessarily impact streaming viewership.

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TV/Streaming, ok. One in the same. And why would't TOD impact viewership? If the game is "viewable" without going to the game, isn't it likely that some people would opt not to go to the game and sit in 100 degree heat for 4-5 hours?

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TV and streaming are NOT the same thing. You must have both to see the game. (versus antenna, cable, satellite). If you do not subscribe to the service then you cannot view it on your TV. Not the same thing.

Unless, you're suggesting that ESPN put our game on at 1:00 (heat) trying to get our fans to stay home and add a subscription to their service. Could be. I doubt that would work, but who know with these greedy b's.

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Dude, your obtuse. I don't think ESPN put the game on ESPN + to sell anything. They put our game on Plus because the game isn't attractive given who they can put on ESPN.

thetruth said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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thetruth said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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thetruth said:

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My concern is less about the players than fans. TV dictating a 11 AM start or 1 PM start in August and September is just inviting fans to stay home.
A couple of thoughts. There are multiple reasons OSU has reduced the number of seats in the stadium. Safety, accessibility, fatter people, are some. But trying to improve the fan experience to compete with TV and people staying at home to watch their 85" TV's and having a refrigerator full of food and beverages is one issue for all schools.

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The game is not "on TV", it is only available on the Internet

There is no need to schedule a 1:00 game to accommodate streaming services. TOD will not necessarily impact streaming viewership.

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TV/Streaming, ok. One in the same. And why would't TOD impact viewership? If the game is "viewable" without going to the game, isn't it likely that some people would opt not to go to the game and sit in 100 degree heat for 4-5 hours?

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TV and streaming are NOT the same thing. You must have both to see the game. (versus antenna, cable, satellite). If you do not subscribe to the service then you cannot view it on your TV. Not the same thing.

Unless, you're suggesting that ESPN put our game on at 1:00 (heat) trying to get our fans to stay home and add a subscription to their service. Could be. I doubt that would work, but who know with these greedy b's.

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Dude, your obtuse. I don't think ESPN put the game on ESPN + to sell anything. They put our game on Plus because the game isn't attractive given who they can put on ESPN.

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You got it right. The Big XII schools still have their one T3 game and SDSU is ours this year. So it wasn't picked up by a network so fell to ESPN+. OSU picked the kick off time. I asked Robert on the radio and he said he thought they felt playing at that time would be to the teams benefit due to their conditioning.

Personally I think it has something to do with we are going to be playing Arkansas at the same time, so a good chance to get players acclimated.

As for player safety and fan safety before 1984 all games were played at 1:30 pm other than those in the half dozen stadiums with lights. No one in the Big 8 had lights and playing in 100+ games for 3 or 4 weeks was expected. And there was no fewer fans in the stands, they were just more sunburned.

thetruth said:

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Dude, your obtuse. I don't think ESPN put the game on ESPN + to sell anything. They put our game on Plus because the game isn't attractive given who they can put on ESPN.

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Git out of here, we're talking about the time of the game, not the station.

stay out if you can't follow the conversation.

NJAggie said:

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You got it right. The Big XII schools still have their one T3 game and SDSU is ours this year. So it wasn't picked up by a network so fell to ESPN+. OSU picked the kick off time. I asked Robert on the radio and he said he thought they felt playing at that time would be to the teams benefit due to their conditioning.

Personally I think it has something to do with we are going to be playing Arkansas at the same time, so a good chance to get players acclimated.

As for player safety and fan safety before 1984 all games were played at 1:30 pm other than those in the half dozen stadiums with lights. No one in the Big 8 had lights and playing in 100+ games for 3 or 4 weeks was expected. And there was no fewer fans in the stands, they were just more sunburned.

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I was not aware that OSU picked the game time.

Also, pre 1984 there was no ESPN, or Fox Sports, ;especially no streaming, so THE ONLY WAY to see a game like this game was to attend.

RodeoPoke said:

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NJAggie said:

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You got it right. The Big XII schools still have their one T3 game and SDSU is ours this year. So it wasn't picked up by a network so fell to ESPN+. OSU picked the kick off time. I asked Robert on the radio and he said he thought they felt playing at that time would be to the teams benefit due to their conditioning.

Personally I think it has something to do with we are going to be playing Arkansas at the same time, so a good chance to get players acclimated.

As for player safety and fan safety before 1984 all games were played at 1:30 pm other than those in the half dozen stadiums with lights. No one in the Big 8 had lights and playing in 100+ games for 3 or 4 weeks was expected. And there was no fewer fans in the stands, they were just more sunburned.

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I was not aware that OSU picked the game time.

Also, pre 1984 there was no ESPN, or Fox Sports, ;especially no streaming, so THE ONLY WAY to see a game like this game was to attend.

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Yep, and prior to 1984 we only had about 30K tickets sold before kickoff time. Never saw one of those games with less in attendance than games later in the season. Sometimes they had more. Also no expectation of the fans to have it on TV, but you could listen on the radio.

NJAggie said:

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Yep, and prior to 1984 we only had about 30K tickets sold before kickoff time. Never saw one of those games with less in attendance than games later in the season. Sometimes they had more. Also no expectation of the fans to have it on TV, but you could listen on the radio.

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1980 - Jimmy Johnson (Jim Trabor)
09/13 West Texas State 48,400
10/04 Washington 48,200
10/25 Kansas 41,000
11/01 San Diego State 24,716
11/08 Colorado 50,000
11/22 Iowa State 37,500

1981 - Jimmy Johnson
09/19 Tulsa 47,000
09/26 San Diego State 45,000
10/24 Louisville ???
11/07 Nebraska 48,000
11/14 Kansas State 49,300
11/28 Oklahoma 51,100

1982 - Jimmy Johnson (4th season)
09/11 North Texas State ???
10/09 Kansas 43,400
10/16 Colorado 47,250
10/30 Missouri ???
11/20 Iowa State 40,200

1983 - Jimmy Johnson
09/10 North Texas State 44,700
10/01 Tulsa 49,500
10/08 #1 Nebraska 49,600
10/15 #15 Oklahoma 50,440
11/05 Kansas State 49,700