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It Appears that Mike Gundy and Oklahoma State Have a Defensive Coordinator in Grantham

December 8, 2024
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STILLWATER – It is uncertain how Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy became interested in the defensive coordinator candidate that Pokes Report has learned could be the hire. It could be former Alabama head coach Nick Saban. It could be former Mississippi State or Florida head coach Dan Muller. It could be former Louisville head coach Bobby Petrino or any number of coaches in the NFL.

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It Appears that Mike Gundy and Oklahoma State Have a Defensive Coordinator in Grantham

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OctaviusRex
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5:01p, 12/8/24
Wow, would be an impressive hire! Respect Robert - had no idea this was in the works.
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CJPoke37
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5:02p, 12/8/24
Is ZRob really going to come here for an OC spot with a chance to be HC?
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5:04p, 12/8/24
After the "possibility" of getting Knowles back, i'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed.
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CProc7
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5:19p, 12/8/24
Just gotta hope Todd Grantham is a name that resonates with high school and college kids.
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5:20p, 12/8/24
Yawn
True wisdom is knowing what you don't know.
- Confucius
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5:22p, 12/8/24
All the teams he coached for in college hate him. What will be different at OSU?
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thetruth
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5:35p, 12/8/24
How on earth would you know that?
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CProc7
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5:35p, 12/8/24
Also wonder how many of the other defensive coaches will stay on.
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In reply to CProc7 • 5:40p, 12/8/24
CProc7 said:
Also wonder how many of the other defensive coaches will stay on.
Per the article on the contract that's up to the coordinator.
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LS1Z28
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6:11p, 12/8/24
- Just got demoted to an analyst role with the Saints
- Got fired the last time he was a college defensive coordinator
- Fans from his former teams hate him

We really need to generate some excitement going into next year. I don't think this hire does that. Hopefully they'll come up big with the OC hire.
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6:16p, 12/8/24
Man, so underwhelming.

A coach who has coached at how many places now? I grew tired reading his bio. Why so many ports of call???

So much for hiring a young, innovative and hungry coach that actually understands NIL and the new college sports landscape. This guy has been in the NFL and might not even know what NIL is …

Ah, the next 2-3 years will tell all.

Damn.

Go Cowboys!
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6:24p, 12/8/24
Is this a BOR hire or an HCMG hire? Either way, I'm completely underwhelmed......
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In reply to LS1Z28 • 6:25p, 12/8/24
https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2024/11/06/todd-grantham-saints-darren-rizzi-coach-changes-staff-fired-demoted/

The Saints were on pace to set an NFL record for the most yards allowed before contact on running plays, which was a direct reflection on Grantham's unit. The defensive line was getting pushed off the ball and not making plays. The lack of development for young draft picks like Payton Turner and Isaiah Foskey speaks for itself.

Amazing!
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NJAggie
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In reply to Eclectic • 6:26p, 12/8/24
Eclectic said:
Is this a BOR hire or an HCMG hire? Either way, I'm completely underwhelmed......
BoR as they pulled his power to hire. So he works or we get to fire him and the BoR.
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LS1Z28
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In reply to rcfb • 6:33p, 12/8/24
I don't get this hire at all. He's failed at his last two full time coaching jobs.
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OctaviusRex
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In reply to NJAggie • 6:54p, 12/8/24
Did Robert's article earlier say Gundy retained all his hiring power?

" We have also confirmed that Gundy gave up no control over his ability to hire and decide who was going to make up his staff; coaching, analytical, roster building and recruitment, and administrative; in the proposed or negotiated contract. That is a major area that a coach should not give up. Those hires are almost always shared with the athletics director to sign off on, but not restricted or involve any other facet than that."
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RodeoPoke
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In reply to NJAggie • 7:07p, 12/8/24
NJAggie said:
Eclectic said:
Is this a BOR hire or an HCMG hire? Either way, I'm completely underwhelmed......
BoR as they pulled his power to hire. So he works or we get to fire him and the BoR.
the BOR is not involved in hiring decisions, REPORTEDLY

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7:09p, 12/8/24
Like many of you on this board (and elsewhere) - I am not exactly quivering with excitement over the hiring of Grantham. It seems the strongest thing he has going For him, from what I have gathered, is his vast experience. However, although HCMG has not been perfect in his choice of coaches, he has made some excellent picks in the past. He had to have known for weeks that Nardo was going to be jettisoned, thus, he has had plenty of time to look for the right guy. Even after the recent debacle, I still trust Gundy. If he thinks Grantham is the fix, then I will trust his instincts.
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7:26p, 12/8/24
But still … another dinosaur that is nowhere in touch with what is going on with NIL and the new recruiting landscape and the college landscape.

Hope he's Knowles 2.0

Wow.

After all the bull**** over the last several days and this is the dog that's trotted out???

Shoot, should've hired a pony at this point in the parade and heralded his name!!!!

Same ol same ol

Wow.

Go Cowboys!
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CJPoke37
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In reply to eecowboy • 8:27p, 12/8/24
This is a 180 from the Nardo hire. He has experience at both the D1 level and NFL. He's had successful defenses in the past at this level and coached under greats. I do not expect us to have a Knowles level defense but an improved defense. I honestly would have loved the cat from NIU but he is a young coach with little experience.
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Joe Khatib
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In reply to CJPoke37 • 8:38p, 12/8/24
You make a lot of sense! I will hold judgement until after the Spring period in late April when you have the complete new team having gone through workouts and drills which give you more of an indicator on things!
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8:49p, 12/8/24
I like the hire. Young and energetic is what we just experienced. We need fundamental, old school hard nosed coaching. That he will bring and expect from his players. The key will be hiring young energetic position coaches that can RECRUIT. He will make sure they coach. This is what we need at the moment.
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NJAggie
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In reply to OctaviusRex • 9:44p, 12/8/24
OctaviusRex said:
Did Robert's article earlier say Gundy retained all his hiring power?

" We have also confirmed that Gundy gave up no control over his ability to hire and decide who was going to make up his staff; coaching, analytical, roster building and recruitment, and administrative; in the proposed or negotiated contract. That is a major area that a coach should not give up. Those hires are almost always shared with the athletics director to sign off on, but not restricted or involve any other facet than that."
My error I misread it.
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Joe Khatib
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In reply to NJAggie • 10:20p, 12/8/24
Yes if a Coach gives that up he should just go ahead and RESIGN!!!
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10:32p, 12/8/24
Portal opens in an hour and a half. Where is this OC?
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10:40p, 12/8/24
Wow so much for an exiting hiring, we needed a young up and coming DC not a guy that has been out of college for many years, maybe we will go 1-8 in conference next year, baby steps LOL
Third and Grantham, here we go!
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OctaviusRex
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In reply to NJAggie • 7:00a, 12/9/24
no worries. really hoping he hires Craddock or Spavital (I know this one's a longshot) at OC.
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9:36a, 12/9/24
We hurried to make a boring DC hire. Taking this long for an OC must be a good one.
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In reply to CProc7 • 10:59a, 12/9/24
CProc7 said:
We hurried to make a boring DC hire. Taking this long for an OC must be a good one.
I'd say it's not a hurried hire. Probably been working on this for several weeks while the detractors were spewing their he won't make changes junk.
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CProc7
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In reply to NJAggie • 12:06p, 12/9/24
I trust the minds they are much smarter and more experienced than me. Just seemed like they just chose to polar opposite of Nardo. Young no experience to Older with a ton of experience.
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NJAggie
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In reply to CProc7 • 1:24p, 12/9/24
CProc7 said:
I trust the minds they are much smarter and more experienced than me. Just seemed like they just chose to polar opposite of Nardo. Young no experience to Older with a ton of experience.
Won't disagree with that, I'm just saying I doubt it was hurried.

Which kind of goes against all those that were saying Gundy had to be forced to make changes then want to act like he did this in 4 days to "prove" their point. Which I don't think your part of.

Gundy has always been a slow decision maker with hires, remember the angst as he took weeks to make the last hire. So to me the fact he had Grantham ready to go this soon says he had been contacting people and working on this for probably close to a month.

Also we should say Saban and Mullen probably know more about Grantham than everyone that's done a google search and is chipping in on how terrible this is.

Those folks are the ones that have been yelling for coaches to be fired every week since Gundy took the job, and are now saying this is a bad hire because his tenures have all been so short.
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1:33p, 12/9/24
I personally like all the SEC experience. I wouldn't mind an SEC defense mindset.
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LS1Z28
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In reply to LS1Z28 • 1:54p, 12/9/24
LS1Z28 said:
- Just got demoted to an analyst role with the Saints
- Got fired the last time he was a college defensive coordinator
- Fans from his former teams hate him

We really need to generate some excitement going into next year. I don't think this hire does that. Hopefully they'll come up big with the OC hire.
Well, RA called me out on his radio show for saying that he got demoted with the Saints. I guess I better provide a source.

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2024/11/06/todd-grantham-saints-darren-rizzi-coach-changes-staff-fired-demoted/
Todd Grantham's responsibilities are changing under New Orleans Saints interim head coach Darren Rizzi. He's moving from defensive line coach to a senior advisor role after the team dismissed Dennis Allen...

...change was needed. The Saints were on pace to set an NFL record for the most yards allowed before contact on running plays, which was a direct reflection on Grantham's unit. The defensive line was getting pushed off the ball and not making plays.
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Joe Khatib
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In reply to LS1Z28 • 4:22p, 12/9/24
Sounds like he and this interim HC who will also be gone after the season ends got along about as well as Jimmy Harrell and Mike Gundy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7:49p, 12/9/24
Welcome to OSU and Stillwater. You are the DC so toughen it up here. GO POKES!!!
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