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Nobody in College Football or Oklahoma State Signed Up for This: Roster Cuts (Updated)

April 27, 2025
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STILLWATER – In my career of covering sports, I have really been close to a professional team where I had to cover the roster cuts. It is an accepted part of professional sports. The “turk” operates at the end of NFL training camps. You remember the movie “Major League” and the red card hung in the locker and it’s down to the minor leagues. Same thing in the NBA with the “G” League. In the movie “Money Ball” Jonah Hill’s character is told he has to inform a player he’s been traded. He didn’t want any part of it and that was traded, not released or cut. It happens in high school when the coach puts out a list, but often there is the option of a junior varsity or “B” team. In college football … not anymore. Last week when the NCAA Transfer Portal opened for the Division I spring football window. West Virginia had over 20 players go in. WVU head coach Rich Rodriguez wasn’t losing his team, he was cutting it down, so he could take better players out of the transfer portal. 

This is the way it works now, and I can tell you that the discussions going on in the West End Zone, today, tomorrow, and throughout the week are emotional and difficult. You know over the years Cowboys head coach Mike Gundy has been hesitant to fire coaches and hire new ones. Gundy prefers stability and most of the time that works. He is a player’s coach that has always cherished his walk-ons. Now, the rules have changed. With the eventual settlement of the House vs. NCAA and other associated lawsuits there will be a 105-roster limit. 

The roster limit doesn’t matter as much as your revenue sharing budget, which at Oklahoma State is believed to be between $13.5 and $15 million. You have to stay on budget and within the 105 number. That means you can’t keep them all. Keeping four quarterbacks, the most expensive position, will be hard. 

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Smith against Texas Tech.

That appears to have been remedied when redshirt freshman Maealiuaki Smith went into the portal on Monday afternoon. He is the youngest of the quarterbacks, and by my observations, was likely fourth in the depth at the position, although that is not my call. He is a talented quarterback and will get a new home, I’m sure. He played in four games this past season as a true freshman, starting in the final two games due to injuries and poor play ahead of him. Smith went 44-of-74 for 489 yards and two touchdowns with four interceptions. He also had 15 rushing attempts for -9 yards, with sacks playing into that number. Basically, he was really good in a close, high-scoring loss at home to Texas Tech and then struggled in blowout loss at Colorado in the final game.

Oklahoma State started spring football with 105 players. A few left during the spring, but with eight more portal arrivals coming and 13 more new recruited freshmen there have to be more cut loose. Oklahoma State isn’t done in the portal as linebackers Darius Thomas (Louisville/Western Kentucky) and Ben Bogle (So. Illinois) are currently at OSU on official visits. Honestly, you don’t have to be down to the 105 until right before the first game next season. For Oklahoma State that would be Thursday, Aug. 26 against Tennessee-Martin. 

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Gundy hates this part of the game now. He has said as much.

However, Mike Gundy’s philosophy was to do it now where players have a chance to get into the portal and land somewhere to continue their career. OSU Coaches are calling friends at other schools, a lot of FCS, Division II, and junior college to help players. The other aspect of waiting until before the first game is that you would put your program through these tough emotions prior to playing the season. The fewer changes and adjustments prior to competition, the better.

Gundy let on to this process when he was speaking with the media last Saturday after the Orange-White spring game.

“The challenge now is the adjustments that have to be made. Because we don't know what will ultimately happen in the portal up through the next eight days. So, I would think that we'll probably have maybe a few more guys go in, I'm guessing. I don't know. And then we might retrieve some more. So that's the adjustment you make over the next week. And then once that's complete, then you finalize your roster for May, and then you start moving forward for August preparation.”

There is the chance that Federal District Judge Claudia Wilken presiding over the settlement could persuade and rule that walk-on currently at schools could be grandfathered in. If that happens and some are still available then from talking to Gundy, I’m sure he would welcome them back. Right now, it is a big if because the NCAA attorneys are not wanting to do that.

Below are the players going into the transfer portal or leaving Oklahoma State. We can’t tell you for sure that they were told to leave (released or cut), but a good number of them were. It’s the unwelcomed and ugly side of having NIL, revenue sharing, and the transfer portal in conjunction with the settlement of the lawsuits from former athletes against the NCAA and college athletics. 

Oklahoma State Football Players going into the transfer portal:  

R.J. Lester, CB, 6-3, 185, RS So., Fort Smith (Northside), Ark. - Left early April looking for more playing time

Maealiuaki Smith, QB, 6-3, 185, RS-Fr., Sacramento (Junipero Serra), Calf. - Financially tough to keep four QBs

Chance Clements, LB, 6-1, 210, RS-Jr., Stillwater, Okla. (WO) - Hard trying walkon

David Arriaga, PK, 6-1, 208, RS-Fr., Stratford (Midwest City), Okla. (WO) - Won’t keep as many specialists with 105 roster

Talon Kendrick, LB, 6-0, 215, RS-Fr., Stillwater, Okla. - Another wlakon with potential

Kyler Pearson, WR, 5-6, 150, RS-Sr., Tulsa (Union), Okla. (WO) - Has been a dependable role player

Ty Williams, S, 6-0, 195, RS-Sr., Muskogee, Okla. - Never has been able to lock down a position

Jaelen Tucker, DT, 6-0, 270, RS-Jr., Edmond (Sante Fe), Okla. - Walkon that is not able to be kept

Justin Crutchmer, LB, 5-10, 210, RS-So., Hot Springs, Ark. - Just look above, you’d love to keep these walkons

Jonathan Agumadu, LB, 6-1, 230, RS-Fr., Dallas, Texas - Has promise but victim of numbers 

Chase Pinkston, S, 6-0, 190, So., Hattiesburg (Oak Grove), Miss./Jones College - Just arrived but unable to get high enough on depth chart

Chauncey Johnson, OL, 6-4, 315, Lonoke, Ark. - With 105 limit can’t be as patient with OL developers

Tykie Andrews, WR, 5-11, 200, Enid, Okla. - Have to feel they recruited over him with the portal

Garret Rangel, QB, 6-2, 205, RS-Jr., Frisco (Lone Star), Texas - This one was not suggested, Rangel just left

Chris Robinson, LB, 6-0, 220, RS-So., Beaufort, SC/Harker Heights, Texas/Kilgore College - Tore his ACL last spring

Jordan Owens, TE, 6-5, 280, RS-Sr., McGehee, Ark./Coffeyville C.C./Central Ark. - Here for spring but couldn’t crack the depth chart

We could continue and guess which players could wind up on that list. No chance. All of the players listed above have been verefied.

The worst I’ve had to deal with as far young men that I’ve met and most times established a relationship with is deal with when they get cut in the pros. I hate that, so this is not just a new thing it is a gut wrenching thing. 

 

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Nobody in College Football or Oklahoma State Signed Up for This: Roster Cuts (Updated)

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James Allison
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I'm sorry the organization is having to go through this phase of the settlement. You & Zach are close enough to the people some tears will be shed.
Oakley2100
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This is the way it has to be. If players want to be paid they have to perform and add value to a team. The days of a "good locker room guy" are over. They have to contribute to the team directly on the field. It is sad but if someone does not contribute at their job they get let go. It is tough to see it in college but this is what players have pushed for and it is the by-product of it.
RodeoPoke
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it doesn't seem like those movies at all.

the roster getting "cut" don't even have scholarships. It's not like it's a big surprise to anybody on the team or in the office. These kids know who they are already, and know who was a "recruited walk-on", etc.

20 of them will even get "lucky" and be given a scholarship, so much of this is actually good news for many.


I would expect that many of these kids could have gotten (and likely will) get scholarships at other levels, and hopefully they're successful and are able to move up as a scholarship player later on.

GreyGhost
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This is what happens when greed takes over. 1 Timothy 6:10 says it best: "For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." And that's exactly what we're seeing right now in college football.

To me, this isn't shocking....it's the inevitable result of running the sport like a business with no moral compass. The system has become every man for himself. And while the NCAA has been asleep at the wheel for decades, I believe university leadership-especially here in Stillwater-saw this coming. Despite some missteps, I genuinely think they've done the best they can to remain loyal and true to the values that have always set OSU apart.

What's happening at Oklahoma State-and schools across the country-isn't just about players entering the portal. It's about programs being forced to optimize every roster spot. Whether it's a matter of cost, performance, or potential, decisions are being made to move on and look for an upgrade. It's not always about finding someone cheaper or flashier. It's about finding someone better-someone who brings more value in a system now ruled by hard budget lines and a roster limit.

I know Gundy hates this part. I've watched him protect walk-ons and fight for stability his entire career. He's now stuck playing a game that's rigged by revenue constraints and lawsuits that reshaped the rules. I don't blame him for doing what he can to help these kids land somewhere else....he's doing what's right within a broken setup.
It hurts to see players leave, especially those I've rooted for. But I also believe in what adversity can do. For the best of these young men, this experience will forge something stronger. It won't be easy, but it might just be the making of them.
I've watched OSU get hit again and again by a directionless NCAA. Now the stakes are higher than ever, and the people paying the price are 18- to 22-year-olds who believed the dream.

This isn't just a warning shot. This is an IMPLOSION of the sport I love.
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Thanks to the players who are leaving because of this mess. Best of luck unless OSU plays your new team. A total cluster screw up. Someone please step up and take control and build some sideboards! GO POKES!!!
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Grey Ghost. That is absolutely the post of the year. You are spot on and it is difficult to watch but I'm sure even more difficult for those involved. Unfortunately, an example of life in general and I especially appreciate your comments regarding how some will rise above this unfortunate experience and be better because of it. We see it everyday. I'm afraid that there's no turning back and eventually the fans will tire of the example it sets or go broke trying to keep up. The haves will get better and many schools will fail trying to keep up. Inevitably we will see the loyal and true spirit of college athletics dwindle and our focus and finances shift to more realistic efforts at our learning institutions. Maybe that's ok as well.
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PaloDuroPoke said:

Grey Ghost. That is absolutely the post of the year. You are spot on and it is difficult to watch but I'm sure even more difficult for those involved. Unfortunately, an example of life in general and I especially appreciate your comments regarding how some will rise above this unfortunate experience and be better because of it. We see it everyday. I'm afraid that there's no turning back and eventually the fans will tire of the example it sets or go broke trying to keep up. The haves will get better and many schools will fail trying to keep up. Inevitably we will see the loyal and true spirit of college athletics dwindle and our focus and finances shift to more realistic efforts at our learning institutions. Maybe that's ok as well.


Well said. I think eventually a 32-team super conference will be formed with a CBA and massive revenue from a tv contract that will be shared. OSU will not be part of this conference and there will be some semblance of sanity relative to the current state of college athletics.
ArmChairCowboy
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This post is completely inaccurate and out of touch. Plenty of scholarship players have been cut, Most players that enter the portal do not come out with a scholarship, and probably most of their credits will not transfer anyway.
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PaloDuroPoke said:

Grey Ghost. That is absolutely the post of the year. You are spot on and it is difficult to watch but I'm sure even more difficult for those involved. Unfortunately, an example of life in general and I especially appreciate your comments regarding how some will rise above this unfortunate experience and be better because of it. We see it everyday. I'm afraid that there's no turning back and eventually the fans will tire of the example it sets or go broke trying to keep up. The haves will get better and many schools will fail trying to keep up. Inevitably we will see the loyal and true spirit of college athletics dwindle and our focus and finances shift to more realistic efforts at our learning institutions. Maybe that's ok as well.
PokeSmot75 said:


Well said. I think eventually a 32-team super conference will be formed with a CBA and massive revenue from a tv contract that will be shared. OSU will not be part of this conference and there will be some semblance of sanity relative to the current state of college athletics.



I'm not so sure about a massive tv deal for a 32-team league. Consider the real interest in such venture. College football is popular with the fans of the teams that participate. With only 32 teams, the fans of the other 100+ teams won't care - I know I won't for two reasons. First, I won't have a rooting interest, and second, I'll intentionally boycott a league of schools that killed the sport. I have to imagine there will be millions with the same mindset.
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IMO, it would be short sighted to not consider what the "haves" are as compared to the "have nots" in the last 25ish years of college football and how that will affect future college football in this portal age. 1st, what the haves have had in general: better facilities; better financial situations; high alum and local fan and media support AND A HISTORY OF COMPETING FOR AND OFT GAINING OR BEING RUNNERS UP FOR CHAMPIONSHIPS. This put these teams on the national stage and media darling status. It didn't however make them America's team as college alums and local fans like "their" teams.
Now you push all those teams into two conferences or perhaps one super conference. However how many of these teams will ultimately be conference champs or runner up consistently? Two, three, maybe four or five at most. Unless the ESPN backstory here is to greatly reduce college football in favor of the NFL, I don't think stacking the top dozen blue bloods into the same conferences is going to work out well for those teams or for fan viewership. Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, OU, Texas and LSU aren't all going to float into the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC very often.....and we've watched 1st hand what happens to blue bloods (ND, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Texas) who fail to win championships for a few years. Same issues for SC, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State and Nebraska. I just don't think this model, long term, is going to thrill as many folks as some might think! The NFL can control competitiveness to a much larger extent than the NCAA college football world. And Arkansas fans won't start supporting Georgia nor will Nebraskans pull for Ohio State! And Kansas and Arizona won't care about (or tune into) the Bulldogs or Buckeyes either!
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ArmChairCowboy said:

This post is completely inaccurate and out of touch. Plenty of scholarship players have been cut, Most players that enter the portal do not come out with a scholarship, and probably most of their credits will not transfer anyway.

naw... you're generalizing way too much.....

you have zero basis for any of your comments.


your post is completely inaccurate and unsupported by factual reality.
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Orangeheart72 said:

IMO, it would be short sighted to not consider what the "haves" are as compared to the "have nots" in the last 25ish years of college football and how that will affect future college football in this portal age. 1st, what the haves have had in general: better facilities; better financial situations; high alum and local fan and media support AND A HISTORY OF COMPETING FOR AND OFT GAINING OR BEING RUNNERS UP FOR CHAMPIONSHIPS. This put these teams on the national stage and media darling status. It didn't however make them America's team as college alums and local fans like "their" teams.
Now you push all those teams into two conferences or perhaps one super conference. However how many of these teams will ultimately be conference champs or runner up consistently? Two, three, maybe four or five at most. Unless the ESPN backstory here is to greatly reduce college football in favor of the NFL, I don't think stacking the top dozen blue bloods into the same conferences is going to work out well for those teams or for fan viewership. Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, OU, Texas and LSU aren't all going to float into the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC very often.....and we've watched 1st hand what happens to blue bloods (ND, Tennessee, Nebraska, and Texas) who fail to win championships for a few years. Same issues for SC, Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State and Nebraska. I just don't think this model, long term, is going to thrill as many folks as some might think! The NFL can control competitiveness to a much larger extent than the NCAA college football world. And Arkansas fans won't start supporting Georgia nor will Nebraskans pull for Ohio State! And Kansas and Arizona won't care about (or tune into) the Bulldogs or Buckeyes either!

lots of elements of truth in that post...

I'm starting to watch the Pro league UFL, over the Pro NCAA league. The UFL players seem to try harder because they're trying to move up to the better playing league, the NCAA kids now make plenty and are opting to stay in college and get paid rather than enter the draft.

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It seems to me there is only a small percentage of college football players who will financially succeed with NIL. Those are the players who are projected to be NFL quality prospects. 2 maybe 3% total? That means that all of those non-NIL college players being cut are losing out on a free-education which will benefit them financially for life. That is what the lawsuits and court decisions have created.
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:





I'm not so sure about a massive tv deal for a 32-team league. Consider the real interest in such venture. College football is popular with the fans of the teams that participate. With only 32 teams, the fans of the other 100+ teams won't care - I know I won't for two reasons. First, I won't have a rooting interest, and second, I'll intentionally boycott a league of schools that killed the sport. I have to imagine there will be millions with the same mindset.
To get a 32 team league with that kind of value you have to break up the B1G & SEC. Those two are already making so much money they have no interest. Why give up their control to be owned by someone else.

Could those two expand, and separate further. Yes.

That's where any further separation takes place. The current structure is basically what we'll have, not a super league.

The smart move would be a larger league encompassing most FBS schools with equal revenue sharing, but schools like UT can't compete when they only have 2x the money everyone else does.
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backphil said:

It seems to me there is only a small percentage of college football players who will financially succeed with NIL. Those are the players who are projected to be NFL quality prospects. 2 maybe 3% total? That means that all of those non-NIL college players being cut are losing out on a free-education which will benefit them financially for life. That is what the lawsuits and court decisions have created.
Phil, we're ADDING scholarships (i.e., free education), not removing them.

We're providing MORE opportunity for free-education, not less.


ALL kids will get some money, not just the NFL bound group.


I'm wondering what impact the new NCAA rule about schools paying players will have.
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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:





I'm not so sure about a massive tv deal for a 32-team league. Consider the real interest in such venture. College football is popular with the fans of the teams that participate. With only 32 teams, the fans of the other 100+ teams won't care - I know I won't for two reasons. First, I won't have a rooting interest, and second, I'll intentionally boycott a league of schools that killed the sport. I have to imagine there will be millions with the same mindset.
NJAggie said:
To get a 32 team league with that kind of value you have to break up the B1G & SEC. Those two are already making so much money they have no interest. Why give up their control to be owned by someone else.

Could those two expand, and separate further. Yes.

That's where any further separation takes place. The current structure is basically what we'll have, not a super league.

The smart move would be a larger league encompassing most FBS schools with equal revenue sharing, but schools like UT can't compete when they only have 2x the money everyone else does.

if a split like that occurred, it would likely be FOX versus ESPN, like it is now, just expanded.

Two leagues, FOX and ESPN with a AFC/NFC type championship game between them.

(based on Fox already has B1G telecasts now, and ESPN has SEC)

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:





I'm not so sure about a massive tv deal for a 32-team league. Consider the real interest in such venture. College football is popular with the fans of the teams that participate. With only 32 teams, the fans of the other 100+ teams won't care - I know I won't for two reasons. First, I won't have a rooting interest, and second, I'll intentionally boycott a league of schools that killed the sport. I have to imagine there will be millions with the same mindset.
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To get a 32 team league with that kind of value you have to break up the B1G & SEC. Those two are already making so much money they have no interest. Why give up their control to be owned by someone else.

Could those two expand, and separate further. Yes.

That's where any further separation takes place. The current structure is basically what we'll have, not a super league.

The smart move would be a larger league encompassing most FBS schools with equal revenue sharing, but schools like UT can't compete when they only have 2x the money everyone else does.


IMO, no combination of 32 teams will result in any more meaningful value than what the B1G and/or the SEC already enjoy. Heck, maybe even less since the rest of the college world will tune-out.

The only re-structuring move that makes sense is a 64-80 team league with, as you say, revenue sharing and rules designed to get it closer to parity. But that will never happen when the heavyweights in the B1G and SEC can dominate a 130 team league with unequal revenue sharing.
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ArmChairCowboy said:

This post is completely inaccurate and out of touch. Plenty of scholarship players have been cut, Most players that enter the portal do not come out with a scholarship, and probably most of their credits will not transfer anyway.
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naw... you're generalizing way too much.....

you have zero basis for any of your comments.


your post is completely inaccurate and unsupported by factual reality.


At this time, 9 of the 14 listed are scholarship players. None have landed anywhere.

According to ESPN over the last 3 year 41% of portal players never found another school.

I'm assuming you've never tried to transfer college credits before

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naw... you're generalizing way too much.....

you have zero basis for any of your comments.


your post is completely inaccurate and unsupported by factual reality.
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At this time, 9 of the 14 listed are scholarship players. None have landed anywhere.

According to ESPN over the last 3 year 41% of portal players never found another school.

I'm assuming you've never tried to transfer college credits before



those "scholarship players" chose to leave, they were not cut. I know the dismal rate of kids entering the portal, but the flat out math is when you EXPAND available scholarships by 20, then roughly half or more of the non-scholarship players just got the free ride they wanted.

Those stats that you've listed clearly do not account for the massive changes that are happening this year (where transfer "up", is way more common which creates player demand at those teams losing players.

and as you said it was already at 60% finding a new transfer home.

This will certainly create a case study for all time.
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This is life folks. Quit trying to overdramatize and bemoan days hone past. Every stakeholder at every level move on for gosh sakes. Plenty of folks in the private/public sector(s) of all ages and types hav had to face job loss-demotions-changes you name it ... speak the truth RA and quit laboring over the past ..
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ArmChairCowboy said:


At this time, 9 of the 14 listed are scholarship players. None have landed anywhere.

According to ESPN over the last 3 year 41% of portal players never found another school.

I'm assuming you've never tried to transfer college credits before


RodeoPoke said:

those "scholarship players" chose to leave, they were not cut. I know the dismal rate of kids entering the portal, but the flat out math is when you EXPAND available scholarships by 20, then roughly half or more of the non-scholarship players just got the free ride they wanted.

Those stats that you've listed clearly do not account for the massive changes that are happening this year (where transfer "up", is way more common which creates player demand at those teams losing players.

and as you said it was already at 60% finding a new transfer home.

This will certainly create a case study for all time.


You think all of the scholarship players chose to leave? Not a chance that any were cut?
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those "scholarship players" chose to leave, they were not cut. I know the dismal rate of kids entering the portal, but the flat out math is when you EXPAND available scholarships by 20, then roughly half or more of the non-scholarship players just got the free ride they wanted.

Those stats that you've listed clearly do not account for the massive changes that are happening this year (where transfer "up", is way more common which creates player demand at those teams losing players.

and as you said it was already at 60% finding a new transfer home.

This will certainly create a case study for all time.
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You think all of the scholarship players chose to leave? Not a chance that any were cut?

I see what you're doing there - try to rephrase the question to force me into your rat hole.

Most of them chose to leave, or flat out got dismissed (historically, up until the last 2-3 years with the advent of the portal), there might have been a few to be "cut" as you say, but that is so few I'm sure they could have given up their scholarship and stayed - so yes, being flat out told you don't have a place on the team is so rare, and so often players leave or get hurt midseason, and kids get those ships, and/or get more PT.

But that was under the 85 scholarship limit, where coaches had to make room, but not with a massive 105 man scholarship hoard.

IMHO, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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You think all of the scholarship players chose to leave? Not a chance that any were cut?
RodeoPoke said:

I see what you're doing there - try to rephrase the question to force me into your rat hole.

Most of them chose to leave, or flat out got dismissed (historically, up until the last 2-3 years with the advent of the portal), there might have been a few to be "cut" as you say, but that is so few I'm sure they could have given up their scholarship and stayed - so yes, being flat out told you don't have a place on the team is so rare, and so often players leave or get hurt midseason, and kids get those ships, and/or get more PT.

But that was under the 85 scholarship limit, where coaches had to make room, but not with a massive 105 man scholarship hoard.

IMHO, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.


Don't be so naive, players are cut all the time. Just look at this quote from our bball coach a few weeks ago:

"Let's see who wants to return or who we choose to return," Lutz said after the regular season, adding that when OSU's season ended he would "sit down and have candid conversations with all of them."

Players are told all the time that they need to hit the portal because they no longer have a spot on the team. I played a sport at a D1 school almost 30 years ago and that happened even back then across all sports, not just football and bball (of course no portal back then, they just didn't renew your one year scholarship).
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PokeSmot75 said:




Don't be so naive, players are cut all the time. Just look at this quote from our bball coach a few weeks ago:

"Let's see who wants to return or who we choose to return," Lutz said after the regular season, adding that when OSU's season ended he would "sit down and have candid conversations with all of them."

Players are told all the time that they need to hit the portal because they no longer have a spot on the team. I played a sport at a D1 school almost 30 years ago and that happened even back then across all sports, not just football and bball (of course no portal back then, they just didn't renew your one year scholarship).


actually, I'm not "being" anything, you really don't have to open a dialogue with an attack. It's not necessary, and it's not becoming.

I'm fully aware that with the advent of the portal, that kids are asked to move on more frequently, but Lutz said it himself many kids do not want to return. Lutz sat down for his end of season meeting and only a few kids showed up...

with that quote from Lutz, you should actually be responding to the guy who claims these players owe some sort of school loyalty, not responding to me.

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OSU has been historically very good at honoring the scholarships of kids who come here and aren't as good as they hoped or even suffer career ending injuries.

This season, however, it's all changed with the massive influx of portal guys combined with more NIL $ as well as the possible exclusion of former walk ons. We'd better get used to it.

Yes, we've had to tell some kids we won't have a scholarship for them anymore along with politely 'suggesting' others might want to look elsewhere if they want to see the field (that part isn't new), including several on scholarship who weren't developing as quickly as they'd hoped.

This all sucks but it's the end result of the lawsuit getting the players what they wanted and it's hard for me to feel bad about some of it when players have been transferring left and right with no prior notice the last few years.

It's all a business now, right? Professionals getting paid $ to play now as well as a free education and all of the perks of an athletic scholarship? Being told they're not cutting it is all part of being an employee.
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