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Smith Acknowledges that Women's Wrestling Could Come to Oklahoma State

October 27, 2021
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STILLWATER – The question came up on my radio show on Triple Play Sports Radio on Wednesday and a listener asked me to ask Oklahoma State University and World wrestling legend and the Cowboys all-time winningest wrestling coach if he could ever see women’s wrestling coming to Oklahoma State? Just over a month ago the University of Iowa, the second most successful college wrestling program in Division I history announced they would bring on women’s wrestling in the 2023-24 school year. The Hawkeyes are the first Division I power conference school to bring on women’s wrestling, but the sports in growing by the day.

“It is definitely something that we have visited with and continued to have conversations about it,” Smith answered. “I kind of leave that to our administration when that decision needs to be made or if it needs to be made. I feel good about it. You need some things in place. There are certain things that need to be in place before that exists and we are working toward that. I’d be out of place saying any more than that, but I feel good about it. I feel good about it.”

Smith was asked in his long tenured role in USA Wrestling and as an experienced free style coach including the both Team USA at the Olympics Game and World Championships to work with some of the talented young women in the sport.

“I spent a little bit of time with some age group kids that were 15-and-16-years old, and the one thing I learned from being around them is they are very serious. They love their sport,” Smith explained. “They love wrestling as much as the men love wrestling and they take it very serious. A lot of them have backgrounds with family members that wrestled, which is very similar (to the male wrestlers).”

Smith pointed to Iowa, which announced officially on Sept. 23 that they were bringing on the sport in 2023-24.

“This is an exciting day for the university, our department and the sport of women’s wrestling,” said Gary Barta, the University of Iowa athletics director. “Our wrestling history and success makes this a perfect fit. We are confident that at Iowa, our women’s wrestling student-athletes will have the opportunity to compete at the highest level athletically and academically.”

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The NCAA recognized women’s wrestling as an emerging sport in 2020 for all three divisions. When Iowa made their announcement on Sept. 23 there were 45 intercollegiate women’s wrestling programs. There are more when you count the NAIA schools and women’s programs in the junior college ranks. There are 32 states that have a sanctioned high school girl’s wrestling state championships.

“A lot of states have official women’s high school wrestling. I think it is up to 30 plus,” Smith added. “As of last week we were at 104 college institutions that (women) wrestle, that is NCAA, NAIA, and junior college. You know when Iowa announced not three weeks ago they were the 100th team and now there is 104. So, you see how fast this is happening.”

It will be interesting to see how this progresses, especially in a time where there is still an air of realignment in college football and athletic departments are coming out of pandemic cutbacks and revenue shortfalls in athletics.

Progress never stops and many see the addition of women’s wrestling programs as progress.

“It’s exciting and it’s a good thing,” Smith said. “It’s good to hear things like women’s wrestling in high school is the fastest growing sport. That’s a good thing to hear. I can tell you there is definitely a place for women wrestlers in college. I can tell you that.”

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Smith Acknowledges that Women's Wrestling Could Come to Oklahoma State

5,988 Views | 15 Replies | Last: 3 yr ago by SiliconPrairie
SiliconPrairie
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I have been thinking for several years that OSU needs to start a women's wrestling program. Maybe the rapid growth of wrestling for women will rejuvenate interest in the sport in general.
CaliforniaCowboy
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I thought that died out in the 1980's..... I think it was called mud wrestling then.

Si
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Women in wrestling could also become mothers who encourage both their male and female offspring to participate. BOOM you just improved wrestling popularity and participation in the future.
NJAggie
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I hope they can find the money to start one early. We really need to be part of this. I think it could even reverse the trend since now you can have mens and womens teams it won't be seen as just a convenient place to cut the scholarship gap by subtraction.
CaliforniaCowboy
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it's an interesting discussion, but why not sports that other conference members already participate in, like volleyball, or swimming/diving (if we were going to expand and add a new women's team)?

NJAggie
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Because we are one of the leaders in wrestling, and we don't have any standing in those other sports. We need to support wrestling, the Cal State system is supporting volleyball.
CaliforniaCowboy
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NJAggie said:

Because we are one of the leaders in wrestling, and we don't have any standing in those other sports. We need to support wrestling, the Cal State system is supporting volleyball.
LOL - you so funny..... OSU is THE ONLY B12 school without a volleyball program.

https://big12sports.com/standings.aspx?standings=161

and I'm not convinced that adding woman's rassling would do anything but create another unattended event, with only expense, and no conference competition.

Ostateman
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NJAggie said:

Because we are one of the leaders in wrestling, and we don't have any standing in those other sports. We need to support wrestling, the Cal State system is supporting volleyball.
That's just a silly reason.

There are more women participating in volleyball in not only Oklahoma high schools but all over the nation as well. Especially in smaller towns because they already have the facilities (gymnasium), the transportation (buses), a small number of participant require to field a team and it's alot more popular woman's sport than wrestling.

Women's volleyball is played in every state. Men's wrestling is very limited to just a few states and even in men's wrestling in pre-college schools, it's not as popular as the traditional sports.
I know there are rules, but do we really want to follow them now?
NJAggie
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I'd have no problem with a volleyball team, but I'd love to see women's wrestling, as I think getting in on the ground floor so we don't have to play catch up. I think we'd like to stay at the front of the wrestling world and adding a women's team would be as easy and as inexpensive.

My big volleyball question is why did we add equestrian instead of volleyball? Did they think it would be a big fan draw?
CaliforniaCowboy
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NJAggie said:

I'd have no problem with a volleyball team, but I'd love to see women's wrestling, as I think getting in on the ground floor so we don't have to play catch up. I think we'd like to stay at the front of the wrestling world and adding a women's team would be as easy and as inexpensive.

My big volleyball question is why did we add equestrian instead of volleyball? Did they think it would be a big fan draw?
I'm fine with adding anything we can afford, I'm not fine with raising football prices to accommodate another team.

I think we added Equestrian because of the number of Ladies that we could count... there was some panic a year or so back when the NCAA said they were going to remove Equestrian as a countable Title IX sport.

All of the conference schools took different tactics to try to meet compliance - ISU dropped baseball (and has volleyball)

OSU tried not to drop any men's sports.
NJAggie
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I get the Title IX piece of it, but still wonder why we chose a really expensive sport like equestrian instead of volleyball and LaCross, heck even swimming (we already have the pool).
SiliconPrairie
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There are more than 1,800 college volleyball teams (334 in D1).

https://www.ncsasports.org/womens-volleyball/colleges#how-many

Does anyone seriously believe we could jump in with a "me too" program and compete for championships anytime soon? I recall several years ago, Holder was quoted as saying we would only consider adding sports if we had the resources to compete at the highest level. I don't know what Weiberg's opinion may be.
NJAggie
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Yeah another reason to maybe not go that way. Although, if there are active HS programs in state it still might be worth it just to give the girls in state a place to go.
SiliconPrairie
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I'm not really opposed to adding women's volleyball; just saying that we would be a small fish in a huge sea. With wrestling, we could potentially get in on the ground floor and become a national power, building on the success of our men's program.

After years of decline, it appears the popularity of wrestling at the high school level may be on the rise. This article is from a couple years ago:

https://youth1.com/wrestling/wrestling-popularity-rise

"This is the second consecutive year that high school wrestling has grown in all categories while the overall participation in high school sports has declined, the first overall decline in 30 years.

"The biggest jump in this year's survey was within girls wrestling which grew for the 30th straight year. There were 21,124 girls participants in 2018-19, an increase of 4,562 athletes from the year before, which accounts for a 27.5% increase from last year. The number of schools that also offer girls wrestling increased to 2,890, an increase of 22.9%.

"In 2018-19, boys high school wrestling grew to 247,441 athletes, an increase of 1,877 athletes from last year. The number of boys wrestling teams for 2018-19 grew to 10,843, up 68 teams from the previous year. It's the second straight year that boys wrestling grew in both participation and teams.

"The top 10 states for boys wrestling participation are: 1. California (22,602); 2. Illinois (14,170); 3. New York (11,184); 4. Texas (10,998); 5. Ohio (10,313); 6. New Jersey (9,648); 7. Pennsylvania (9,460); 8. Washington (9,251); 9. Michigan (9,167); 10. Minnesota (8,058).

"The top 10 states for girls wrestling participation, from states that report to the NFHS, are: 1. California (6,014); 2. Texas (4,421); 3. Washington (1,864); 4. Missouri (956); 5. Illinois (676); 6. Hawaii (620); 7. Oregon (597); 8. Arizona (481); 9. New Jersey (477); 10. Florida (475)"
SiliconPrairie
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It is interesting that the state of Texas (prime recruiting territory for us) is ranked #4 in boys wrestling participation and #2 in girls wrestling, yet none of the Texas schools in Big 12 have a wrestling program.

When the Cowboy Wrestling schedule was announced a few weeks ago, with the OSU-Iowa duel in Arlington, the point was made about the growth of high school wrestling in Texas.

https://okstate.com/news/2021/10/12/cowboy-wrestling-to-face-iowa-in-historic-bout-at-the-ballpark.aspx

"College wrestling's most storied programs, Oklahoma State and Iowa, are set to square off in a special neutral-site dual at Globe Life Field in Arlington, Texas at 6:30 p.m. CT on Feb. 12, it was announced today."

"OSU Cowboy Wrestling is the most successful program in collegiate sports," OSU Athletic Director Chad Weiberg said. "We are excited to bring our program to Globe Life Field and the DFW metroplex. The sport of wrestling is growing in the state of Texas and this is a great opportunity for us to showcase our passionate fanbase and historic brand as part of this unique event."

Growth of high school wrestling in Texas should be a great benefit to OSU in recruiting and competing with the B1G schools.
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