Cowboys Add Commitment in Stanaland and Likely Another Coming

We certainly are better at pass protection statistically. Much credit to Spencer sanders having a great ability to run when a play breaks down which is almost always considering he has an unblocked player of two in his grill immediately. If we had a true pocket passer we would be absolutely screwed and the stats would look much worse. But for sake of argument I'll throw away stats because apparently that's not valid. When I watch on tv the get zero push. They fall down constantly. Move backwards a lot. So statistically as well as visual they are not good. So if the number are good enough and you deny what you see on tv then I can't help you and you have an extreme case of denial. Which is absolutely no surprise considering you think Shane illingworth is better than Spencer sanders and should have been the starter here hahaha then went to Nevada and did squat. So your delusions don't surprise and it's logical you think good is bad and bad is good.

You can see it live on tv in short yardage situations lol the announcers even talk about it. We can't even confidently trot out for a 3rd and 1. Remember last week we had to bring in sanders in a short yardage situation and lost yards lol bevy they had zero faith in our line to open even a hole big enough for one yard. We gotta get all fancy and stupid because our line is pitiful.

"OSU's recruiting class ranks 70th nationally and ninth in the Big 12"

Spare me all the excuses and counter-points etc ... FB recruiting as a general over-archhing topic is the single most down-right depressing topic of our FB program for decade (+) ... I'm prepared to be lamblasted ... give me your best shots but know that I've already heard them all already ...

you badly twist everything just to fit your agenda

I did not say that Illingworth was better... I said that our offense is better with a passing QB, and it is, based on our history going back to Robinson. I said a passing QB gives us a better chance to win.

We would have torched KU if we had a QB like Shane to insert. Shane was 4-0 as a starter at OSU, and had only two INTs total in 6 games played - compared to the two guys we have behind Sanders now.

Gary these guys will literally say things like shows stats or it doesn't count then when you do say only fools use stats lol stuff like he should be a 4 star then turn around and say rankings are bull. They are literally here as ok state crusaders lol don't have a real opinion or you will indeed be lambasted

Kansas would have sack illingworth 5 time's probably. I'm not twisting either I'm talking straight up and you have no valid argument. Our line sucks cali go back to sleep

CowboyRed said:

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Kansas would have sack illingworth 5 time's probably. I'm not twisting either I'm talking straight up and you have no valid argument. Our line sucks cali go back to sleep

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more wild conjecture. Seriously... our freshman QB had 5 freaking turnovers, Shane didn't turn the ball over like that.

"probably" you are "twisting", that's all you do... you didn't even get the statements "straight up" in your post to Gary, when you could have copied the comments verbatim.

A freshman qb playing behind a bad line with no run game to support him and the passing game.

You notice how we were about to lose a bad Iowa state team at home? No offense to speak of. We forced and recovered 5 turnovers and our offense couldn't capitalize until sanders was put in a used is ability to extend plays.

This is all after you said Rangel wasn't ready and we needed to play Gundy jr because he was better and more prepared. Cali your evaluation skills are horse crap.

CowboyRed said:

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A freshman qb playing behind a bad line with no run game to support him and the passing game.

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you're talking about the Tulsa game right? Where Illingworth came in as the 3rd string QB and saved the day? As a true freshman with NO practice time because of COVID lock down. Come on man... eat apples

CowboyRed said:

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You notice how we were about to lose a bad Iowa state team at home? No offense to speak of. We forced and recovered 5 turnovers and our offense couldn't capitalize until sanders was put in a used is ability to extend plays.

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that has nothing to do with any statements made in this entire thread. After a half decade, Sanders has gotten pretty good at getting the ball out quickly, and knowing the play book. It was freaking last place ISU, and he did have some poor drives in that span as well. Not all peaches and cream.

CowboyRed said:

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This is all after you said Rangel wasn't ready and we needed to play Gundy jr because he was better and more prepared. Cali your evaluation skills are horse crap.

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and I was correct. Gundy managed the game (where as Rangel had previously turned it over on almost every early possession). If not for the blocked punt because we had a new punter, Gundy would have had the lead, AND, I'm confident that he could have gotten enough points in the 4th qtr to win the game, especially with the defense playing like that.

mocking my correct call does not make your statement legitimate.

Dude, you just don't know what the heck you're talking about. You apparently see everything through orange hate filled glasses

No the Kansas game with Rangel starting. You call out his turnovers but don't acknowledge why.

CowboyRed said:

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No the Kansas game with Rangel starting. You call out his turnovers but don't acknowledge why.

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I know what you're talking about, jimminie christmas... I was pointing out that Illingworth was put in an even worse situation than that as a true freshman, and he saved the freaking game and the season when asked to do so.

apples to apples.

I know why Rangel had turnovers, he's a freaking freshman... Gunnar has had plenty too. Illingworth did not.... not when he was a freshman, not when he was a red shirt freshman.

Also want to point out this is what always happens when we talk. You insist on commenting on my posts even after I truly tried to step away from it. Bro you are actually stalking me at this point. We are down a senseless rabbit hole and I am losing brain cells talking to your dumbass lol just go away for god sakes

CowboyRed said:

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Also want to point out this is what always happens when we talk. You insist on commenting on my posts even after I truly tried to step away from it. Bro you are actually stalking me at this point. We are down a senseless rabbit hole and I am losing brain cells talking to your dumbass lol just go away for god sakes

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just stop attacking my team with only conjecture and innuendo and we won't have anything to discuss

if you hate our Pokes that much, find something else to do

I don't hate them I've said it many times you just ignore it. I call out weakness that haven't been effectively addressed. Like o line and recruiting. That's like the only thing I ever bring up. At this point it's clear to me you don't have good intentions on this forum. It's like a cesspool of negativity and arguments. You're shameless man and you don't understand boundaries. You are an embarrassment.

CowboyRed said:

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I don't hate them I've said it many times you just ignore it. I call out weakness that haven't been effectively addressed. Like o line and recruiting. That's like the only thing I ever bring up. At this point it's clear to me you don't have good intentions on this forum. It's like a cesspool of negativity and arguments. You're shameless man and you don't understand boundaries. You are an embarrassment.

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see.... this type of post is the problem. I discuss the team and the issues, and you only want to talk about me, and make it about me.

If we're going to talk about me.. well, I'm embarrassed for our fan base that you think your a Cowboy fan.

Then leave me the hell alone lol it always happens this way with us because you instigate it then cry about it after. It wouldn't ever happen if you minded your own man. Did your parents not even teach you that? Don't start none won't be none? Acting like you aren't apart of the problem man Jesus lol

Sometimes I really think you are a 14 year old somewhere just trolling instead of a grown man

gary121853 said:

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"OSU's recruiting class ranks 70th nationally and ninth in the Big 12"

Spare me all the excuses and counter-points etc ... FB recruiting as a general over-archhing topic is the single most down-right depressing topic of our FB program for decade (+) ... I'm prepared to be lamblasted ... give me your best shots but know that I've already heard them all already ...

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Depressing? For a decade? Would suck to be you. You're someone clearly focused on the wrong thing. It's wins, not recruiting ranking that matters. There are at least 20 teams that "outrecruit" OSU every year that just wished they had as many wins as OSU over the last 5, 10, 15 years.

Dude, the town of Stillwater, the state of Oklahoma, the Big12, and lack of championship pedigree are not positives for recruiting. But it gets worst. OSU won't be able to compete for 4 and 5 star athletes the farther down the NIL road we go. An unnamed school just offered one of our 3-star recruits in the upcoming class the following:

$100k
New car
Airline tickets for his parents to every game
A personal line of clothing.

Your life is really going to suck from here on out.

There, my best shot.

CowboyRed said:

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Sometimes I really think you are a 14 year old somewhere just trolling instead of a grown man

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Not n-akrut

CowboyRed said:

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Then leave me the hell alone lol it always happens this way with us because you instigate it then cry about it after. It wouldn't ever happen if you minded your own man. Did your parents not even teach you that? Don't start none won't be none? Acting like you aren't apart of the problem man Jesus lol

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I am not bothering you, I am not calling you names, I am not talking about you

I am only responding to your statements on a public message board.

OSU is minding my own. If you can't successfully defend the criticism of the team, then don't blame me for it.

CowboyRed said:

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Sometimes I really think you are a 14 year old somewhere just trolling instead of a grown man

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if you would stop posting about me, and what you think of me, then we might actually start getting somewhere.. but you haven't despite your promise to Robert and the forum

You very much are bothering and antagonizing me. I know you don't care and it's intentional so go screw your self

Since i said that you have commented on almost every post I've made. You know exactly what you are doing. You are a chump man plain and simple.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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CowboyRed said:

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Sometimes I really think you are a 14 year old somewhere just trolling instead of a grown man

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Not n-akrut

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Forget it Gumby, this one isn't worth dealing with! Remember "RED" LOLOLOLOL

CowboyRed said:

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Since i said that you have commented on almost every post I've made. You know exactly what you are doing. You are a chump man plain and simple.

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I am not replying to "you", I am commenting on posts that are made.

I would say the same thing (and do) whether you're making the wild statements, or whether it is somebody else posting unsubstantiated crap about the team.

my comments are not made relative to you or anybody else, I comment on topics and statements made. Only. (unless defending myself from personal attacks)

Joe Khatib said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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CowboyRed said:

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Sometimes I really think you are a 14 year old somewhere just trolling instead of a grown man

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Not n-akrut

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Forget it Gumby, this one isn't worth dealing with! Remember "RED" LOLOLOLOL

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Better considering shutting this one down Zach!

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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gary121853 said:

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"OSU's recruiting class ranks 70th nationally and ninth in the Big 12"

Spare me all the excuses and counter-points etc ... FB recruiting as a general over-archhing topic is the single most down-right depressing topic of our FB program for decade (+) ... I'm prepared to be lamblasted ... give me your best shots but know that I've already heard them all already ...

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Depressing? For a decade? Would suck to be you. You're someone clearly focused on the wrong thing. It's wins, not recruiting ranking that matters. There are at least 20 teams that "outrecruit" OSU every year that just wished they had as many wins as OSU over the last 5, 10, 15 years.

Dude, the town of Stillwater, the state of Oklahoma, the Big12, and lack of championship pedigree are not positives for recruiting. But it gets worst. OSU won't be able to compete for 4 and 5 star athletes the farther down the NIL road we go. An unnamed school just offered one of our 3-star recruits in the upcoming class the following:

$100k
New car
Airline tickets for his parents to every game
A personal line of clothing.

Your life is really going to suck from here on out.

There, my best shot.

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Gumby .... you disappoint me ... is this really your 'best shot? Not very original ...

gary121853 said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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gary121853 said:

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"OSU's recruiting class ranks 70th nationally and ninth in the Big 12"

Spare me all the excuses and counter-points etc ... FB recruiting as a general over-archhing topic is the single most down-right depressing topic of our FB program for decade (+) ... I'm prepared to be lamblasted ... give me your best shots but know that I've already heard them all already ...

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Depressing? For a decade? Would suck to be you. You're someone clearly focused on the wrong thing. It's wins, not recruiting ranking that matters. There are at least 20 teams that "outrecruit" OSU every year that just wished they had as many wins as OSU over the last 5, 10, 15 years.

Dude, the town of Stillwater, the state of Oklahoma, the Big12, and lack of championship pedigree are not positives for recruiting. But it gets worst. OSU won't be able to compete for 4 and 5 star athletes the farther down the NIL road we go. An unnamed school just offered one of our 3-star recruits in the upcoming class the following:

$100k
New car
Airline tickets for his parents to every game
A personal line of clothing.

Your life is really going to suck from here on out.

There, my best shot.

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Gumby .... you disappoint me ... is this really your 'best shot? Not very original ...

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Actually, no, it's not.

I don't know if this kid will ever seed this junk or not. But we just had a kid that re-opened his recruitment, and committed within minutes of getting the offer.

That story has lead to a thread of comments that have attacked him, the coaches, the o-line, all the o-line recruits and most of the posters in it.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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gary121853 said:

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"OSU's recruiting class ranks 70th nationally and ninth in the Big 12"

Spare me all the excuses and counter-points etc ... FB recruiting as a general over-archhing topic is the single most down-right depressing topic of our FB program for decade (+) ... I'm prepared to be lamblasted ... give me your best shots but know that I've already heard them all already ...

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Depressing? For a decade? Would suck to be you. You're someone clearly focused on the wrong thing. It's wins, not recruiting ranking that matters. There are at least 20 teams that "outrecruit" OSU every year that just wished they had as many wins as OSU over the last 5, 10, 15 years.

Dude, the town of Stillwater, the state of Oklahoma, the Big12, and lack of championship pedigree are not positives for recruiting. But it gets worst. OSU won't be able to compete for 4 and 5 star athletes the farther down the NIL road we go. An unnamed school just offered one of our 3-star recruits in the upcoming class the following:

$100k
New car
Airline tickets for his parents to every game
A personal line of clothing.

Your life is really going to suck from here on out.

There, my best shot.

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I agree with the wins. I live in Texas namely Austin for the last 23 years. Longhorns, Aggies, Red Raiders, some Bears fans would very much like to have the consistent success OSU has had. The vast majority of them are favorable towards Gundy.

On the recruiting side, we are very much going to have to find innovative and scrappy ways of combatting the impact of the NIL. If the transfer portal remains, I'm hopeful Gundy's attitude evolves towards being a bit more favorable as a channel for us.