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Watch: Mike Boynton End-of-Year Press Conference

March 27, 2023
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STILLWATER – We’re nearly a week removed for the end of the season for the Oklahoma State men’s basketball program. The season didn’t go the way Mike Boynton and Co. wanted it to go as the Pokes missed out on the NCAA tournament and fell to North Texas in the quarterfinals of the NIT, a game which was played in Gallagher-Iba Arena.

“As far as the season, obviously fell short of our ultimate team goals, which is obviously playing in the NCAA tournament, and not just getting there, but having a team that’s capable of having success,” said Mike Boynton. “There were a lot of reasons why that happened. Some of it was outside of control, but there were several things that we could’ve done better to ensure our position. Ultimately, that’s on me and it's my job to put our program in position that we are not on that line, or fighting the last couple of weeks, but that we have consistent success throughout the year.”

Cowboys’ head coach Mike Boynton met with the media on Monday morning to put a bow on the season and look ahead to an offseason which is filled with several tough decision and questions. First and foremost, probably the most difficult question of what’s the roster going to look like? The Cowboys gain two scholarships from the departures of Caleb Asberry and Bernard Kouma, both of which players have no more eligibility. They’ll gain two scholarships following the NCAA sanctions, but the coaching staff has signed four true freshmen and are set to sign a fifth in Eric Dailey in April.

Other than Asberry and Kouma, every scholarship player on the 2022-23 roster, including Chris Harris Jr., has at least one year of eligibility remaining. History tells us at least two(ish) players will enter the transfer portal but could be as many as four. So, certainly a lot of work to be done in the offseason.

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Watch: Mike Boynton End-of-Year Press Conference

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RodeoPoke
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did you confirm that Kouma has no eligibility?.... almost certainly he does have his Covid year available.


this was written when we signed him, PRIOR TO the allowance of the 2020 Covid year.


...originally committed and signed with Brad Underwood at Illinois in the 2019 class. However, Kouma decided to go the JUCO route and played for South Plains College in Levelland, TX.

After his one season at SPC, Kouma will have three years of eligibility remaining.
(Plus the Covid year)

https://www.si.com/college/oklahomastate/basketball/bernard-kouma-commitment

he's had 4 years to play 4, just like Boone has. If Boone has another year, then certainly Kouma does too.

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RodeoPoke said:

did you confirm that Kouma has no eligibility?.... almost certainly he does have his Covid year available.


this was written when we signed him, PRIOR TO the allowance of the 2020 Covid year.


...originally committed and signed with Brad Underwood at Illinois in the 2019 class. However, Kouma decided to go the JUCO route and played for South Plains College in Levelland, TX.

After his one season at SPC, Kouma will have three years of eligibility remaining.
(Plus the Covid year)

https://www.si.com/college/oklahomastate/basketball/bernard-kouma-commitment

he's had 4 years to play 4, just like Boone has. If Boone has another year, then certainly Kouma does too.


Yes, I've confirmed several times with several people. Both Caleb Asberry and Bernard Kouma have exhausted their NCAA eligibility. Don't ask me how it works, I just know they're no longer eligible.
RodeoPoke
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Asbery of course, since he's already played 5 seasons, one at JUCO, 3 at Texas State, and one at OSU.

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RodeoPoke said:

Asbery of course, since he's already played 5 seasons, one at JUCO, 3 at Texas State, and one at OSU.


Correct, just stating the only two players who have exhausted their eligibility. Easier to keep the two of them together in the conversation.
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I get what you're saying..... but I want to know why.

what you are saying does not make any sense. We know why Asberry is out of eligibility, because he was in the 2018 class and he already played 5 seasons. Kouma has only played 4. Boone 4. Anderson 4 - they were all in the 2019 class.

I know you said to not ask you why - but why is exactly what is needed.

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RodeoPoke said:

I get what you're saying..... but I want to know why.

what you are saying does not make any sense. We know why Asberry is out of eligibility, because he was in the 2018 class and he already played 5 seasons. Kouma has only played 4. Boone 4. Anderson 4 - they were all in the 2019 class.

I know you said to not ask you why - but why is exactly what is needed.


I said not to ask me why is because I wasn't given a reason as to why he's out of eligibility. I'm not withholding info and If I had it, I'd definitely say what it is. You can try and reason and make it make sense all you want, but I'm also not really sure why you're trying to argue the fact a non-impact player has exhausted his eligibility.
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Zach Lancaster said:

RodeoPoke said:

I get what you're saying..... but I want to know why.

what you are saying does not make any sense. We know why Asberry is out of eligibility, because he was in the 2018 class and he already played 5 seasons. Kouma has only played 4. Boone 4. Anderson 4 - they were all in the 2019 class.

I know you said to not ask you why - but why is exactly what is needed.


I said not to ask me why is because I wasn't given a reason as to why he's out of eligibility. I'm not withholding info and If I had it, I'd definitely say what it is. You can try and reason and make it make sense all you want, but I'm also not really sure why you're trying to argue the fact a non-impact player has exhausted his eligibility.
Seems weird. Like something california cowboy would argue
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Yeah how juco works with NCAA is very complex, we had a kid on the football team that thought he had another year, but he had taken a class at another school and that changed the year count and he didn't have the year. So if they're saying he doesn't have it's probably somehow that time at juco counted as 2 years not 1.
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Zach Lancaster said:

RodeoPoke said:

I get what you're saying..... but I want to know why.

what you are saying does not make any sense. We know why Asberry is out of eligibility, because he was in the 2018 class and he already played 5 seasons. Kouma has only played 4. Boone 4. Anderson 4 - they were all in the 2019 class.

I know you said to not ask you why - but why is exactly what is needed.


I said not to ask me why is because I wasn't given a reason as to why he's out of eligibility. I'm not withholding info and If I had it, I'd definitely say what it is. You can try and reason and make it make sense all you want, but I'm also not really sure why you're trying to argue the fact a non-impact player has exhausted his eligibility.
I'm not actually "arguing" anything. I'm asking how eligibility is calculated. Nobody seems to be able to answer the question. I'm not accusing you of hiding anything, I only asked you because you have more access to the coaches and administration (and the players), than the rest of us, and because you were reporting it.

as I just explained in another thread, it is important because OSU does not need to develop a reputation of jettisoning kids that came to us, although in Kouma's case, since he came via JUCO, then he can probably transfer without having to sit out a year. Eligibility will be more clear cut once this wave of Covid year players has filtered though, but right now it is fairly important to understand how eligibility is calculated, and who can essentially transfer and who must suffer a year sitting out.

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RodeoPoke said:

Zach Lancaster said:

RodeoPoke said:

I get what you're saying..... but I want to know why.

what you are saying does not make any sense. We know why Asberry is out of eligibility, because he was in the 2018 class and he already played 5 seasons. Kouma has only played 4. Boone 4. Anderson 4 - they were all in the 2019 class.

I know you said to not ask you why - but why is exactly what is needed.


I said not to ask me why is because I wasn't given a reason as to why he's out of eligibility. I'm not withholding info and If I had it, I'd definitely say what it is. You can try and reason and make it make sense all you want, but I'm also not really sure why you're trying to argue the fact a non-impact player has exhausted his eligibility.
I'm not actually "arguing" anything. I'm asking how eligibility is calculated. Nobody seems to be able to answer the question. I'm not accusing you of hiding anything, I only asked you because you have more access to the coaches and administration (and the players), than the rest of us, and because you were reporting it.

as I just explained in another thread, it is important because OSU does not need to develop a reputation of jettisoning kids that came to us, although in Kouma's case, since he came via JUCO, then he can probably transfer without having to sit out a year. Eligibility will be more clear cut once this wave of Covid year players has filtered though, but right now it is fairly important to understand how eligibility is calculated, and who can essentially transfer and who must suffer a year sitting out.


So because Zach doesn't know the answer well enough to be definitive, you think OSU is running him off and the athletic department doesn't know eligibility rules?
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Duke Silver said:



So because Zach doesn't know the answer well enough to be definitive, you think OSU is running him off and the athletic department doesn't know eligibility rules?
I'm not going to argue with you, please stick to the topic.

Where does it say that OSU is running him off? All I've heard is that tuff talks would be had with all the players. Who says that the athletic department doesn't know the eligibility rules, there has been nothing from the athletic department about his eligibility, or I have not seen that officially reported.

I don't really care what Zach knows or doesn't know, but he is the one reporting it. He said he was attending the Monday briefing and he would check on it. I simply asked if he had checked on it, like he said. Zach replied that he had asked around.

Do you know?
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RodeoPoke said:

Duke Silver said:



So because Zach doesn't know the answer well enough to be definitive, you think OSU is running him off and the athletic department doesn't know eligibility rules?
I'm not going to argue with you, please stick to the topic.

1 Where does it say that OSU is running him off? All I've heard is that tuff talks would be had with all the players. 2 Who says that the athletic department doesn't know the eligibility rules, there has been nothing from the athletic department about his eligibility, or I have not seen that officially reported.

I don't really care what Zach knows or doesn't know, but he is the one reporting it. He said he was attending the Monday briefing and he would check on it. I simply asked if he had checked on it, like he said. Zach replied that he had asked around.

Do you know?

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1 OSU does not need to develop a reputation of jettisoning kids that came to us,
2 You

Then you keep on and on and on and on. He doesn't know the specific rule. He asked the question to someone who knows, he got an answer. Not off in the weeds specific, just the one that matters. But I guess that isn't good enough.
RodeoPoke
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so, you're saying that you don't know why either?

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