Oklahoma State Lands Xavier Transfer Center Abou Ousmane

Thank the Lord we landed a decent center. This was huge and perhaps the biggest get so far. Maybe this will move the needle a bit on the last few scholarships and who might commit. At least one more big badly needed.

We need 2 more big men and then one high scoring guy, or else this roster goes nowhere but the bottom half of the conference.
This is so crazy that every college basketball team has to replace most of its roster each season, and the level of talent you get depends on how much your school can afford to pay. I am expecting to someday see players start to sue the NCAA for requiring them to also be students. It's so out of control and just wrong. The only way to stop this nonsense is to set a limit to how much a player can earn from NIL, or else just create one set amount for each player to earn. That immediately puts a stop to pay for play.
John Smith made the right decision to get away from this rat race.

Zen, we should have hired you to coach and rebuild this team. Your eye for judging talent or lack thereof should have moved you to the top of the list. Or perhaps you should take over for Chad and bring in the next Hank Iba or Eddie Sutoin.

Zen said:

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We need 2 more big men and then one high scoring guy, or else this roster goes nowhere but the bottom half of the conference.
This is so crazy that every college basketball team has to replace most of its roster each season, and the level of talent you get depends on how much your school can afford to pay. I am expecting to someday see players start to sue the NCAA for requiring them to also be students. It's so out of control and just wrong. The only way to stop this nonsense is to set a limit to how much a player can earn from NIL, or else just create one set amount for each player to earn. That immediately puts a stop to pay for play.
John Smith made the right decision to get away from this rat race.

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I won't address your first comment, I will wait to see how the season plays out. But I agree on the rest, can you imagine if the NFL and NBA allowed EVERY player to become a free agent each season and no salary cap? That is basically where college football and basketball stand these days, I hate it.

There's one thing that could restore the sanity to college sports, solidify rosters, and return reasonableness to NIL.

All transfers would require the athlete to sit out a year of participation. That year would count towards eligibility. The only exception to the transfer rule would waive this requirement for athletes whose head coach is replaced.

That commitment was huge!!

McBride could back him up if needed, but we could use another big for depth, and when we play taller teams.

I believe Coach intends to play a motion offense, where most of the kids don't have "positions", per se, but all are expected to move, dribble, pass and shoot - which means we will likely use a PG to bring the ball up, and many of the rest playing practically identical roles, except underneath.

The team is shaping up nicely.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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There's one thing that could restore the sanity to college sports, solidify rosters, and return reasonableness to NIL.

All transfers would require the athlete to sit out a year of participation. That year would count towards eligibility. The only exception to the transfer rule would waive this requirement for athletes whose head coach is replaced.

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except that has already been defeated in court, so what is plan B?

NCAA athletes will be immediately eligible to play no matter how many times they transfer as long as they meet academic requirements after the association fast-tracked legislation Wednesday to fall in line with a recent court order.

A coalition of state attorneys general late last year sued the NCAA, challenging rules that forced athletes that wanted to transfer multiple-times as undergraduates to sit out a season with their new school.

A judge in West Virginia granted the plaintiffs a temporary injunction, lifting requirements for multiple-time transfers to request a waiver from the NCAA to be immediately eligible to compete.

There is only one legal solution on transfers and NIL.

Make them employees, get a collective bargaining agreement in place.

Salaries replace current NIL and it returns to outside people wanting to use the players NIL and are willing to pay for it not donations to pay a kid a salary that requires some charity work.

A CBA also would allow schools to sign kids to multiple years, and that limits transfers and movement.

Don't get me wrong I hate those options, but legally they are the only way to somewhat correct the ship.

Sadly it looks like the Universities are trying to avoid that route and setting themselves set up for another round of lawsuits. The plan they're floating is to have kids agree to the current situation or sue them again. The plan is the current suit covers kids currently in school and previous. Then each year have all the kids sign off on the current deal or opt out for a class action suit to change the deal. So an endless set of lawsuits and the courts setting the landscape. They need to get on board and do the CBA and then they have control.

RodeoPoke said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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There's one thing that could restore the sanity to college sports, solidify rosters, and return reasonableness to NIL.

All transfers would require the athlete to sit out a year of participation. That year would count towards eligibility. The only exception to the transfer rule would waive this requirement for athletes whose head coach is replaced.

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except that has already been defeated in court, so what is plan B?

NCAA athletes will be immediately eligible to play no matter how many times they transfer as long as they meet academic requirements after the association fast-tracked legislation Wednesday to fall in line with a recent court order.

A coalition of state attorneys general late last year sued the NCAA, challenging rules that forced athletes that wanted to transfer multiple-times as undergraduates to sit out a season with their new school.

A judge in West Virginia granted the plaintiffs a temporary injunction, lifting requirements for multiple-time transfers to request a waiver from the NCAA to be immediately eligible to compete.

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If every school adopted a "policy" requiring athletes sit out a year, there's nothing a court could do to force a school to "play" an athlete.

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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There's one thing that could restore the sanity to college sports, solidify rosters, and return reasonableness to NIL.

All transfers would require the athlete to sit out a year of participation. That year would count towards eligibility. The only exception to the transfer rule would waive this requirement for athletes whose head coach is replaced.

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except that has already been defeated in court, so what is plan B?

NCAA athletes will be immediately eligible to play no matter how many times they transfer as long as they meet academic requirements after the association fast-tracked legislation Wednesday to fall in line with a recent court order.

A coalition of state attorneys general late last year sued the NCAA, challenging rules that forced athletes that wanted to transfer multiple-times as undergraduates to sit out a season with their new school.

A judge in West Virginia granted the plaintiffs a temporary injunction, lifting requirements for multiple-time transfers to request a waiver from the NCAA to be immediately eligible to compete.

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If every school adopted a "policy" requiring athletes sit out a year, there's nothing a court could do to force a school to "play" an athlete.

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I'm sure that would be found to be a criminal conspiracy, luckily there is no chance that could happen.

NJAggie said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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There's one thing that could restore the sanity to college sports, solidify rosters, and return reasonableness to NIL.

All transfers would require the athlete to sit out a year of participation. That year would count towards eligibility. The only exception to the transfer rule would waive this requirement for athletes whose head coach is replaced.

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except that has already been defeated in court, so what is plan B?

NCAA athletes will be immediately eligible to play no matter how many times they transfer as long as they meet academic requirements after the association fast-tracked legislation Wednesday to fall in line with a recent court order.

A coalition of state attorneys general late last year sued the NCAA, challenging rules that forced athletes that wanted to transfer multiple-times as undergraduates to sit out a season with their new school.

A judge in West Virginia granted the plaintiffs a temporary injunction, lifting requirements for multiple-time transfers to request a waiver from the NCAA to be immediately eligible to compete.

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If every school adopted a "policy" requiring athletes sit out a year, there's nothing a court could do to force a school to "play" an athlete.

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I'm sure that would be found to be a criminal conspiracy, luckily there is no chance that could happen.

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Every school has academic requirements. Why not athletic requirements?

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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NJAggie said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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RodeoPoke said:

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GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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There's one thing that could restore the sanity to college sports, solidify rosters, and return reasonableness to NIL.

All transfers would require the athlete to sit out a year of participation. That year would count towards eligibility. The only exception to the transfer rule would waive this requirement for athletes whose head coach is replaced.

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except that has already been defeated in court, so what is plan B?

NCAA athletes will be immediately eligible to play no matter how many times they transfer as long as they meet academic requirements after the association fast-tracked legislation Wednesday to fall in line with a recent court order.

A coalition of state attorneys general late last year sued the NCAA, challenging rules that forced athletes that wanted to transfer multiple-times as undergraduates to sit out a season with their new school.

A judge in West Virginia granted the plaintiffs a temporary injunction, lifting requirements for multiple-time transfers to request a waiver from the NCAA to be immediately eligible to compete.

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If every school adopted a "policy" requiring athletes sit out a year, there's nothing a court could do to force a school to "play" an athlete.

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I'm sure that would be found to be a criminal conspiracy, luckily there is no chance that could happen.

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Every school has academic requirements. Why not athletic requirements?

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You will be taking steps to limit their ability to transfer and the courts have clearly said you can't do that.

There are no academic limits on transferring other than being accepted at the new school. Any loss of credits is part of your decision to make the move. The athlete has the same type of losses athletically, but in neither case is it saying you have to sit out a year, which is what you are proposing.

You need them signing a contract to stay for x years, that can only happen if you are directly paying them to play.