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It's Hard to Blame One Thing Only, But Quarterback Play was Rough

September 21, 2024
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STILLWATER – Man this was a bad day at the office for a lot of us. A bad day for Oklahoma State fans that sat through a rough game. Everybody was hyped up and ready to go and the atmosphere was great inside Boone Pickens Stadium. Hey so it was 100 degrees and on the turf it was 161 degrees but hey it was two top 15 ranked and unbeaten teams ready for a first conference game showdown. The trouble is only half the Oklahoma State team showed up for most of it. Blame is a tough assignment.

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It's Hard to Blame One Thing Only, But Quarterback Play was Rough

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spencertmac
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12:23a, 9/22/24
Still have most of the season in front of them, and everything is still on the table…especially another shot at Utah, redemption, and a B12 title.
Keep grinding, men.
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8:14a, 9/22/24
Pretty clear now that our team has serious limitations - a consistently weak offensive line, inconsistent quarterback play and big play vulnerability on
defense. Utah is a very good team and was able to exploit our deficiencies. Can we come back and have a good conference season? Gundy has done it before and we can only hope he can turn it around again. K-State will be a huge challenge in Manhattan next week.
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Joe Khatib
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9:05a, 9/22/24
Sorry Robert but before you throw Bowman completely under the bus, he did not give up 250 yards rushing and allow them to hammer it down OSU throats, you saw the disparity in time of possession? Yes, some of that is lack of consistency and three and outs by the offense but also because they were effective with their running game against OSU!!!
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In reply to Joe Khatib • 9:24a, 9/22/24
He's not throwing anybody under the bus. Bowman DID play like crap. The O-line is the same less than average O-line (only in their 6th year and older), the OC is so predictable, and the O-line coach is way beyond his prime.
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In reply to tulsasig • 9:36a, 9/22/24
tulsasig said:
Pretty clear now that our team has serious limitations - a consistently weak offensive line, inconsistent quarterback play and big play vulnerability on
defense. Utah is a very good team and was able to exploit our deficiencies. Can we come back and have a good conference season? Gundy has done it before and we can only hope he can turn it around again. K-State will be a huge challenge in Manhattan next week.
OMG

we lost by 3 freaking points!

We'll get em next time.... likely run the table from here too
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9:58a, 9/22/24
The coaching sucked as well. Is Bowman your man or not? It is more than obvious Rangel is not the answer. Stick with your man! A few completed passes gives confidence back. Now Bowman will be looking over his shoulder. Bad… bad coaching imo.
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In reply to missouripoke • 10:11a, 9/22/24
missouripoke said:
The coaching sucked as well. Is Bowman your man or not? It is more than obvious Rangel is not the answer. Stick with your man! A few completed passes gives confidence back. Now Bowman will be looking over his shoulder. Bad… bad coaching imo.
naw.... Coach said sometimes you pull them and let them clear their head, and he implied that it seemed to help.

Heck, Saban even pulled Hurts at the half of the national championship game, and Hurts is still playing in the NFL.

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10:32a, 9/22/24
Tough loss….huge let down…but the road to the championship game and a rematch is still open…We'll know a lot more how the season will be after next week. Hope the boys can bounce back…
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In reply to Joe Khatib • 10:53a, 9/22/24
You cant blame OSU defense yesterday. 7 3 and outs, offense kept putting defense on the field. The only big play given up at 4th Quarter with 6 mins remaining, that lead to TD.
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Joe Khatib
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In reply to rcfb • 11:20a, 9/22/24
rcfb said:
You cant blame OSU defense yesterday. 7 3 and outs, offense kept putting defense on the field. The only big play given up at 4th Quarter with 6 mins remaining, that lead to TD.
They converted their main opportunities into seven points, we ended up with three points on the first scoring opportunity which should have been punched in for seven! We missed a field goal but so did they! If we had scored seven on our first opportunity that game probably is tied at the end of regulation and we go to overtime just like the Arkansas game!!!
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12:52p, 9/22/24
If bowman had been benched for two or three series not....whatever he was side lined for, he would have heated up and we would have won...bad call by hcmg.
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2:35p, 9/22/24
Sorry he needed benched. He was missing everything and moving around like he was pressured all day. He wasn't. The only issue I have is that after seeing Rangel wasn't ready to step up, he needed to be back in. Gundys point had been made. No one came to play but the fans and Trey Rucker and the defense. This game was 10-3 to the 4th quarter. 13-3 to 6 minutes left. What did our offense do? Seven straight 3 and outs, Two first downs and a missed field goal. No one on the offense came to play.
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Joe Khatib
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In reply to pokeacola • 3:00p, 9/22/24
pokeacola said:
If bowman had been benched for two or three series not....whatever he was side lined for, he would have heated up and we would have won...bad call by hcmg.
I don't understand why they didn't run the wild cat play at least eight or nine times!!! It was very successful on that one play!!! They had the Utah defense leaning one way and then hit them with a counter that gained decent yardage!!! They also, I know this for a fact, have a pop pass play where Ollie looks to go with an RPO to the back runs just up to the line of scrimmage and usually hits a wide open tight end in the middle of the field with nothing but open field around him!!! My God open up the playbook when the situation dictates the need for that!!
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In reply to RodeoPoke • 6:06p, 9/22/24
I understand what he is saying. I just hope Bowman does not worry about being yanked in the future. He is our only hope at this point.
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7:34a, 9/23/24
Three things.

1 Poor tackling. How many yards after contact.

2 Giving Rangel more than 2 series.

3 For whatever the reason we didn't wake up and play until Presley was targeted.
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9:37a, 9/23/24
Pretty clear that Dickey and Dunn need to go. The Oline has been dreadful, the offensive gameplan for 3 of the 4 games has been terrible. Don't get me started on the QB play. Rangel ain't it God bless him. We have seen the sample size enough times. Gotta move him to 3rd and Zane into the 2nd spot.
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10:55a, 9/23/24
I am pretty confident that randomly pulling plays out of a hat would yield a better result than Dunn picking plays.
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10:57a, 9/23/24
But also, I have noticed that once Gundy is publicly humiliated enough to make changes - he makes the right changes and we get on track. But he won't act on what he knows to do until he is publicly humiliated enough. He knows what to do. He just doesn't like disrupting the organization. But when the public humiliation hits him, he makes the winning changes.
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In reply to Roughrider • 10:58a, 9/23/24
Roughrider said:
But also, I have noticed that once Gundy is publicly humiliated enough to make changes - he makes the right changes and we get on track. But he won't act on what he knows to do until he is publicly humiliated enough. He knows what to do. He just doesn't like disrupting the organization. But when the public humiliation hits him, he makes the winning changes.

that's just plain conspiracy nonsense. No place for blatant rumor and hate speech on the boards. Thanks

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In reply to Crazed_Stallion • 1:56p, 9/23/24
Crazed_Stallion said:
Pretty clear that Dickey and Dunn need to go. The Oline has been dreadful, the offensive gameplan for 3 of the 4 games has been terrible. Don't get me started on the QB play. Rangel ain't it God bless him. We have seen the sample size enough times. Gotta move him to 3rd and Zane into the 2nd spot.
Welcome back! Have you even seen Flores PERFORM IN A GAME!!! ROTFLMAO!!!
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In reply to Joe Khatib • 2:23p, 9/23/24
Nope, have you? Can't be any worse that Rangel has been. Look at his career stats. Just sayin. Anything would have been better.
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In reply to Crazed_Stallion • 2:39p, 9/24/24
Crazed_Stallion said:
Nope, have you? Can't be any worse that Rangel has been. Look at his career stats. Just sayin. Anything would have been better.
Nope, and neither have you, nor have you or I seen the true freshman from California, Maeli Smith, what if he is the answer schmendrick!!!
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In reply to Joe Khatib • 3:20p, 9/24/24
Then play them. Doesn't matter. Play a true freshman a redshirt freshman. Don't play scared.
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12:50p, 9/25/24
great golly... now "they're playing scared"... some fans just don't know when to....
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In reply to RodeoPoke • 12:48p, 10/1/24
It's not a theory. Gundy hates disruption and prizes continuity. He has said it many many times over decades now. That is his style. But if he is humiliated enough, he makes changes and really good changes. But with his CEO style he created, he wants to show steadiness so it takes more humiliation than it once did. But you will see it at some point in the season. I guarantee this all gets cleaned up by the end of the season. Not sure how many more losses it will take to get that movement. But we will see it.

You know it's possible that he is right and that OSU is not a job that can sustain itself with too much change too quickly. Which means we have a ceiling. It's possible that the past 18 years are as good as it gets. And maybe that is good enough for all of us and that would be ok.
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In reply to Roughrider • 5:12p, 10/1/24
Roughrider said:
It's not a theory. Gundy hates disruption and prizes continuity. He has said it many many times over decades now. That is his style. But if he is humiliated enough, he makes changes and really good changes. But with his CEO style he created, he wants to show steadiness so it takes more humiliation than it once did. But you will see it at some point in the season. I guarantee this all gets cleaned up by the end of the season. Not sure how many more losses it will take to get that movement. But we will see it.

You know it's possible that he is right and that OSU is not a job that can sustain itself with too much change too quickly. Which means we have a ceiling. It's possible that the past 18 years are as good as it gets. And maybe that is good enough for all of us and that would be ok.
that entire post is shear nonsense. It's not true. fiction.

many of you guys just need to become fans again.
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