And When You Think It Can't Get Worse and It Does

Our team has lost the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense for the last four games. Our problems start there, and our team stands little chance of winning until that changes.

I was proud of Freshman David Kabongo's effort there at the end. He was credited with 4 tackles it seems like it was more. I believe these were his first snaps to play. Good stuff…

I can tell you when we play next the offense will run it up the middle twice gain maybe a yard and have two throw with pressure which Bowman isn't any good at. I don't understand where we are going as a program. We thought this year would show we are here at the top after the other two left. We are tied for dead last. Mass changes coming hopefully. The Nardo Dunn experiment need to go. If he would stay on as a WR coach I wouldn't mind Dunn staying but I doubt that.

Mr Allen, u are a homer Gundy said it too
Thought our o line was gonna be good. Worst coaching and game planning I've scene since Dunn was O coordinator. He should perhaps find a job as a receiver coach.
Then our Defense, if u call it that lol. Awful. Stop being a homer.

Yup, I agree Eddie! It may be time for them, the Coaches, to consider giving playing time to younger players! I told you today the guard play has not been good all season and I feel they should give the two younger guys Davis Dotson and Austin Kawicki a shot because both are ready now to go full time! I am now very much in the camp now of putting Flores and Maeli Smith out there and let's see what they can do under center!!! Probably have to really hit the portal hard once it opens in December! I was told by someone who would know that the two red dirt concerts next April, which is going to help NIL, will generate approximately $2 million dollars in NIL revenue!

tulsasig said:

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Our team has lost the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense for the last four games. Our problems start there, and our team stands little chance of winning until that changes.

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Interesting stat that was put out by both Dave Hunziker and John Holcomb toward the end of the game broadcast! John said that last year defenses weren't touching Ollie until he was a full two yards downfield from the line of scrimmage which means your O line was getting good push and controlling the LOS! This year through the first six games Ollie is either met at the LOS or maybe a half yard downfield!!! Huge, Huge difference! It seems no better on the Dline as people just seem to gash us with the run!!!

Joe Khatib said:

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tulsasig said:

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Our team has lost the line of scrimmage on both offense and defense for the last four games. Our problems start there, and our team stands little chance of winning until that changes.

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John said that last year defenses weren't touching Ollie until he was a full two yards downfield from the line of scrimmage which means your O line was getting good push and controlling the LOS!

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ahh... that is ONE THING that it could mean.

It could also suggest that Ford, Schultz, Stribling are as good at lead blockers as we had last year. and... Ollie was much better than he's been this year. Ollie looks like his freshman year where he runs into the line and falls down - no side steps, no dancing, no vision, and no yards

Unfortunately, I think it gets much worse from here. I don't see a win on our schedule from here on out. We are getting worse and not better. This team rallied last year and played for each other. Their goals are gone and the Team (culture) is fractured. We got lucky and found lightening in a bottle with the run game and rode it out to the end. We got progressively worse last year after OU. Let's face it, we can't out talent anyone. Last year was a magical year with a lot of luck involved.


This team isn't playing together or for each other. Our coaches are the worst in the conference. Honestly, who would trade with us. Our opponents going forward all have all improved week to week with youth, with the exception of TCU. Our fans have quit and don't believe the deception anymore.

Our future does not look bright without Immediate action. Gundy has to make a statement with these crap coaches we have. There has to be demotions at the minimum. There needs to be a full on effort to see what we have with our younger guys and who can play. This allows us to get them experience, see where we need to focus with the portal, and keeps fans interested. Of course, none of this will happen and we will continue to tell fans we got out coached and out played week in and week out.

Go Pokes!

Face the facts! 1. Bowman needs to become a mentor or move on. 2. Offensive play calling is so predictable my junior high son could call defense against us. 3. Defense is hesitant in decision making and not tackling good at all. 4. Listening to all the coach talk is making me sick. Man up. Players are paid! Stop protecting them. Call them out. I agree Ollie looks like a freshman again. I guess he got paid and so what's it matter. I am an Alumni and a life long fan and this is not ok. If we were in the games and getting beat by a score, that is one thing. But, we aren't even being competitive. Something has to give and I hope Gundy can figure it out and make the decisions he needs to.

Unfortunately in this era of NIL it is very likely that offseason our players, coaches, OSU administration and even fans were more concerned with developing NIL packages to keep players from leaving rather than developing individual skills, coaching schemes, and implementing the correct players/coaches into those roles.

What a waste of money!

This can't be further from the truth. They rolled the exact same team back. It's not like you had 20 new players. The coaches have failed, that's the bottom line.

This team is not competitive. It's difficult but not impossible to simply compete with no running game. It's impossible to compete with no running game and ineffective to terrible QB play.

It's always been difficult for me to imagine our QB can be effective given his horrific mechanics and well below average arm. I will no longer even try to imagine.

stillh20poke said:

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Unfortunately in this era of NIL it is very likely that offseason our players, coaches, OSU administration and even fans were more concerned with developing NIL packages to keep players from leaving rather than developing individual skills, coaching schemes, and implementing the correct players/coaches into those roles.

What a waste of money!

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well.. other than that is exactly what Gundy said they did not do.... yeah, other than that... SMH