Breaking: Oklahoma State Fires Mike Gundy After 21 Years

Well that sucks. I think it's a monumental bad idea no one won before him. But we shall see. Enjoy the buyout Coach!

Bittersweet day for sure. It needed to happen, but it's too bad it ever got to this point (mostly his own fault IMO, years of lazy recruiting and keeping yes men coaches).

Let's get somebody young and hungry, who knows how the game is played today (both on and off the field).

Thanks for everything you did for OSU, Coach Gundy!

Time to go get a non OSU guy who has a history of being great in recruiting and winning!

My hot board:
1. Alex Golesh
2. GJ Kinne
3. Ryan Silverfield
4. Zac
5. Collin Klein

Bittersweet for sure. Thanks coach! Thanks for all the wins and memories! Thanks for giving 21 years and more for OSU football! Good luck with everything!

My choice is a guy who was a GA at OSU back when they were winning. Eric Henderson, hes at USC now as CO DC and Dline Coach. #1 recruiter in the country, born and raised in Louisiana so he has SEC ties and has proven he can get those guys out of there. Also a Super Bowl champ so he knows the type of talent needed to be a powerhouse. It can't be an unproven OSU Alum because they played at OSU

It sucks

All of this is mute if you don't have the NIL to compete. I am going to assume that enough of the big donors said they will pony up if Gundy is gone. If not, this whole exercise is a waste of time. And even worse if it cost us $15M to have him go.

While that's kinda great, I think a lot of you who harp on recruiting are going to be sorely disappointed in a few years. As an alum, and proud of it. Stillwater is not a hot bed for recruits. It never has been and never will be. Especially with today's environment of "show me the money!" It's going to be tough.

Appreciate all MG has done, greatest coach in OSU history, but his old approach won't work anymore and he admitted himself he was too slow to adapt. Hope he and OSU can be on good terms at some point and he serves as an ambassador.

RIP OSU FOOTBALL, NICE KNOWING YOU!!!

Joe Khatib said:

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RIP OSU FOOTBALL, NICE KNOWING YOU!!!

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It died a couple years ago.

LOLOLOLOL! None of them will even give OSU a sniff! Any "hot" or up and coming Coaches will want NO PART OF THE CURRENT OSU LEADERSHIP! It looks like Chad is next on the chopping block! Maybe we should just hire Jimmy Harrell as our next football coach! That way WE WOULD HAVE OUR VERY OWN VERSION OF JERRY JONES and we could really scream and complain! LOL

Well it is probably DEAD AND BURIED FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE SNOTTY!

We will see,,,, but I think you over estimate the "dollars" will come flowing in. There are long dark days ahead. But as with life, nothing stays the same.

Maybe I am overestimating, we shall see, but if Kansas State can recover from Bill Snyder leaving, OSU can from this. The trajectory was not good.

OSU is closer to fertile recruiting territory in TX, HS football is better in OK than KS, and OSU has better facilities. We aren't and will never be Oregon, Georgia, or Texas but we're not playing at a HS stadium like Lewis field was in the 90s anymore. And fans are loyal enough to have showed out like they did at the Tulsa game. No reason OSU can't compete in the Big 12.

I know for a fact Henderson whose been on the rise wants to come back, he was interested when there was speculation in the spring that Gundy might be out then.

This is heartbreaking! We have been season ticket holders for 20 years. BOR - you have destroyed oSu football!
We will not be driving up to Stillwater from Dallas for the rest of the games. Good luck Coach Gundy! We will miss you!

OctaviusRex said:

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Maybe I am overestimating, we shall see, but if Kansas State can recover from Bill Snyder leaving, OSU can from this. The trajectory was not good.

OSU is closer to fertile recruiting territory in TX, HS football is better in OK than KS, and OSU has better facilities. We aren't and will never be Oregon, Georgia, or Texas but we're not playing at a HS stadium like Lewis field was in the 90s anymore. And fans are loyal enough to have showed out like they did at the Tulsa game. No reason OSU can't compete in the Big 12.

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Guess you haven't noticed KSU is in the same shape we're in.

Terrible timing here as we're going to lose a lot of the current roster insuring as bad a finish as possible. Then the decommits have already started for next year's class. This BoR chair is a joke, but he'll never get the blame he deserves.

Chad has his work cut out for him, maybe he can hire Tre Lamb away from TU.

The one thing I'm pretty sure of is that it's not going to wind up with another 21 year hire or tons of new donations.

coachb087 said:

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I know for a fact Henderson whose been on the rise wants to come back, he was interested when there was speculation in the spring that Gundy might be out then.

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I would hire that young guy with the swagger, coaching over at Tulsa, Lamb, before I would hire an Assistant Coach I have never heard of!!!

Mike Gundy was loyal & true to this football program for almost 4 decades. I wish the athletic department would've shown loyalty back by letting him finish out the season. I understand why this happened, but I don't understand the timing.

TCU was in a very similar position a few years ago when they fired Gary Patterson. He was by far the most successful coach in the history of their school. They made the right hire, and it catapulted them into the National Championship game.

This hire will be one of the most important in the history of Oklahoma State athletics. It may determine whether or not they get left out in the cold when the dust settles on conference realignment. Gotta find the right guy.

They won a big 12 championship in the NIL era lol. I'm glad Chad made sure to say "We're not lacking for support, even though I know there's those who think we are." OSU is not the poorest school in the conference. Every school has de commitments when firing a coach and we were gonna finish 2-10 at best anyway. I'm not sure what the expectation was, given we had 2 weeks to prepare for a bad Tulsa team at home (who also had a brand new staff, team and was playing with a backup QB).

It is a sad day, I wish the end could've been different, but I don't understand some people having the expectations of becoming a bottom feeder. Have some belief in OSU. Was the plan just to support OSU football until Mike Gundy retired then stop because we have no chance?

OctaviusRex said:

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They won a big 12 championship in the NIL era lol. I'm glad Chad made sure to say "We're not lacking for support, even though I know there's those who think we are." OSU is not the poorest school in the conference. Every school has de commitments when firing a coach and we were gonna finish 2-10 at best anyway. I'm not sure what the expectation was, given we had 2 weeks to prepare for a bad Tulsa team at home.

It is a sad day, I wish the end could've been different, but I don't understand some people having the expectations of becoming a bottom feeder. Have some belief in OSU. Was the plan just to support OSU football until Mike Gundy retired then stop because we have no chance?

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It was basically the FIRST REAL YEAR OF THE NIL ERA! They had an established team that had been mostly recruited and developed!!!

That's what we had last year. Almost the whole team returned. The NIL excuse does not work when Tulsa is manhandling you in the trenches. If you really don't think we can do better than what we've seen in the past 12 games, being a fan of this football program must be a miserable experience. NIL/transfer portal sucks but it's reality and whether he retired or this happened Gundy can't coach OSU forever.

OctaviusRex said:

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That's what we had last year. Almost the whole team returned. The NIL excuse does not work when Tulsa is manhandling you in the trenches. If you really don't think we can do better than what we've seen in the past 12 games, being a fan of this football program must be a miserable experience. NIL/transfer portal sucks but it's reality and whether he retired or this happened Gundy can't coach OSU forever.

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Ummmm, yeah we had the same thing in 2011 and 2021 what is your damn point? if you have one! K State pretty much also has that SAME DAMN SCENARIO THIS YEAR AND LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE ABOUT TO CRASH TO A 3 or 4 win season!

My point is the coaching decline, how do you go from Arlington to 0-9 in the Big 12 with your own developed players and the exact same staff? We were able to afford keeping Ollie Gordon, Nick Martin, Collin Oliver, Rashad Owens, Stribling. Iowa State is doing just fine and they aren't lighting it up in the transfer portal. There's plenty of decent teams in the Big 12 and Texas Tech is the only one that's mainly fueled by NIL and the portal

I do want to address an earlier comment you made about recruiting. As a Texan, you are right it is a hot bed for recruiting. I had the blessing of watching not one, but three sons play 6A ball and one go on to play at Baylor. However Our Pokes will now have a double tough time going head to head with just the Texas schools because they have deeper pockets and always will compared to our Pokes. And it's not close now that TB is gone. Look at Tech. That's just the reality. Gundy did more with way less and now it's really going to show I'm afraid. Change was inevitable, there's no denying that. But the end result may be worse than one loosing season and a bad start. If Hauss hadn't went down I doubt we would be having this discussion. They better build Gundy a statue, mullet and all.

I do agree with you, he deserves a statue and for it to be named Mike Gundy field. This does suck, I wanted him to ride out on top. Mike Gundy gave me some of the best sports memories of my life. I completely understand people being upset, but I don't understand just how openly telling the world "Well OSU sucks forever now! Might as well relegate us to D2!" is helpful?

We would look better with Hauss; but again, Tulsa's backup QB looked miles better than ours and this is year 3 for Zane in the program. There's plenty of teams doing just fine without bringing in 5 star transfers. We're not so hopeless that looking worse against Oregon than Montana State and 52-0 against Colorado and losing to Tulsa is just what we should expect now.

OctaviusRex said:

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They won a big 12 championship in the NIL era lol. I'm glad Chad made sure to say "We're not lacking for support, even though I know there's those who think we are." OSU is not the poorest school in the conference. Every school has de commitments when firing a coach and we were gonna finish 2-10 at best anyway. I'm not sure what the expectation was, given we had 2 weeks to prepare for a bad Tulsa team at home (who also had a brand new staff, team and was playing with a backup QB).

It is a sad day, I wish the end could've been different, but I don't understand some people having the expectations of becoming a bottom feeder. Have some belief in OSU. Was the plan just to support OSU football until Mike Gundy retired then stop because we have no chance?

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Listen the geniuses that are using a bad turn to take their shots at Gundy. My pessimism isn't about OSU it's about the BoR and the geniuses they are listening to.

I bet in 2 or 3 years he'll be shocked to find that those who promised cash if he fired Gundy are still figuring out if/when they can give.

OctaviusRex said:

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My point is the coaching decline, how do you go from Arlington to 0-9 in the Big 12 with your own developed players and the exact same staff? We were able to afford keeping Ollie Gordon, Nick Martin, Collin Oliver, Rashad Owens, Stribling. Iowa State is doing just fine and they aren't lighting it up in the transfer portal. There's plenty of decent teams in the Big 12 and Texas Tech is the only one that's mainly fueled by NIL and the portal

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Lots of those guys were extra year Covid guys and they played not like 7th year Sr's but the FA who just got a huge contract and is more interested in spending his new wealth than playing. Happens all the time and they had a whole team of them.

Yes it was a bad deal, and they probably should have brought in new kids then.

I'm definitely with you that it's not solely a Mike Gundy issue. More than enough people to blame for this situation. But there's a non zero chance the team actually does improve next season, or maybe even looks better with Meacham running it in the interim if he injects some new energy. What then? I guess everyone's in "I'll believe it when I see it" mode, which is fair. could go horribly wrong, but I'm also in "I'll believe it when I see it" mode that OSU is totally helpless and can't do better than the last 12 games. Arizona State had an amazing bounce back season and wasn't loaded up with blue chip transfers and expensive players. OSU's transfer class was 5th in the Big 12 and 35th in the nation last year, sounds competitive to me.

I don't think Chad Weiberg went up and told a bald face lie when he said "we aren't without adequate support, though there's people that think that we are." He seemed pretty feisty on that point. And yes, it's thanks to Mike Gundy that people care so much now and OSU has gained so much support.

Gundy was the greatest ever at oSu. I was there in between his time as a player and a coach, and it was amazing for a couple of decades after that. Someone that helped create one of the best teams in his, and oSu, history is waiting for his chance. Bring back Knowles!!!!

If someone is willing and able to buy out Coach Gundy, why didn't he buy players with that 15 M?????
This makes me sick!

To Coach Gundy! You made us proud of oSu and oSu Football! God sped in whatever you do!

To BOR: you make me sick!

I know we're not without resources and our TV revenue will jump from $35M to something north of $50M this year as the new TV contract kicks in. That was probably a large source of the buyout funding.

My main concern is that the people that made bad decisions in how they handled this are going to be the ones interfering in Chad's work to find the next coach. And, the sad thing is those folks won't get fired for the bad hires they may push on CW, he'll be the next one they take down.

I also have a major concern, and I had this before the firing, that we won't be able to fund enough NIL to be as competitive as we'd like to be. I get it there's a lot of internet rumors of deep pocket donors that didn't give anything before but are going to let it rain now. I'm highly skeptical of that. People that would conditionally give in the future tend to keep find conditions not to give. So I think the next coach will have about the same budget going forward. Now if the school is planning on going over the $20M "cap" with the new TV money that could help. But, I doubt there are big donors sitting on the sidelines willing to put out Texas Tech levels of NIL. I wish there were, but I doubt they exist. There could be a small bump as people realize how serious the situation is, but no big dollar hero is showing up.

And, my financial concerns go beyond OSU. I think the current situation is putting us all right back to 1970 where a few schools had all the recruits, and the rest of us had no chance against them. Yes 69-3 was terrible, but we used to get at least 3 of those a year back then as we didn't have the rosters to compete with OU, NU, or Arkansas. Scholarship limits, changed that and lead to the greatest period of CFB as more people had talent on their roster and a chance to win. The current TV money/NIL divide is pushing us back into that same framework. We'll have about 10-12 teams that are loaded and the rest of us playing with the leftovers. TV thinks it'll be great, but I think it'll be stale as it will be the same group playing for the MNC every year.

NJAggie said:

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I know we're not without resources and our TV revenue will jump from $35M to something north of $50M this year as the new TV contract kicks in. That was probably a large source of the buyout funding.

My main concern is that the people that made bad decisions in how they handled this are going to be the ones interfering in Chad's work to find the next coach. And, the sad thing is those folks won't get fired for the bad hires they may push on CW, he'll be the next one they take down.

I also have a major concern, and I had this before the firing, that we won't be able to fund enough NIL to be as competitive as we'd like to be. I get it there's a lot of internet rumors of deep pocket donors that didn't give anything before but are going to let it rain now. I'm highly skeptical of that. People that would conditionally give in the future tend to keep find conditions not to give. So I think the next coach will have about the same budget going forward. Now if the school is planning on going over the $20M "cap" with the new TV money that could help. But, I doubt there are big donors sitting on the sidelines willing to put out Texas Tech levels of NIL. I wish there were, but I doubt they exist. There could be a small bump as people realize how serious the situation is, but no big dollar hero is showing up.

And, my financial concerns go beyond OSU. I think the current situation is putting us all right back to 1970 where a few schools had all the recruits, and the rest of us had no chance against them. Yes 69-3 was terrible, but we used to get at least 3 of those a year back then as we didn't have the rosters to compete with OU, NU, or Arkansas. Scholarship limits, changed that and lead to the greatest period of CFB as more people had talent on their roster and a chance to win. The current TV money/NIL divide is pushing us back into that same framework. We'll have about 10-12 teams that are loaded and the rest of us playing with the leftovers. TV thinks it'll be great, but I think it'll be stale as it will be the same group playing for the MNC every year.

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Trophy!!!