Things Have Deteriorated, Media and Fans Are Better Loyal, True, and Classy

rcfb said:

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As a highest paid individual in state of Oklahoma, Gundy should expect tough questions from anyone from media all the time.

Gundy sanpped yesterday and threatened livelihood of a member. Sooner he does something about it, the better. Expecting media members to not ask tough questions is laughable. And trying to control them using media access is further laughable.

And going after the reporter here in this story is not really helpful for Gundy or OSU.

Calling PFB media is laughable. It's amazing they are credentialed with their past.

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Joe Khatib said:

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I notice you were on Orange power, what the heck happened to that site? Were they not paying the bills?

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No one seems to know for sure. It just went down a few weeks ago without any warning. The orangepower Twitter account posted that they are looking for a solution to get it back up and running, but they haven't given any details about what happened.

I noticed that Greg Bartlett no longer works for OSU. He appears to work for UC Davis now. I don't know if that has anything to do with this or if it's just a coincidence.

Hopefully they'll get it back up and running soon. I always liked it.

I disagree

Lol, what? All he had to say. Is I'm not going to talk about that at this time. We reflect on the season when we get back. Let's talk about today. A non answer. Instead he cried like a baby.

Coach Gundy's has established a "Cowboy Culture." He talks about it often. Hard work, loyalty, cooperation, love of the game, and maintaining high character traits are just a few of the attributes he teaches his players. I like how he holds his team accountable. Coaching is a tough job. It has high and lows. It can test you in many ways that many jobs do not. When I saw the post game I was I thought to myself immediately that what Gundy said was not the "Cowboy Culture" he has preached. Under no circumstance can you call a person an "ass" or "ignorant" in public and then preach "Cowboy Culture." Coach Gundy has to hold himself accountable just the same as he holds his team accountable. He is the face of the team and the university. Weiberg must address this with him in private and Gundy needs to make an apology to the reporter. You can tell Gundy has been frustrated with this year. However, 7-6 records will be forgotten in time, but his verbal name calling in public can quickly erase all the good he has accomplished. He needs to address this and make this right.

principalg said:

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GreyGhost,

I agree with number 2. After the bs performance by our offense this year, I believe I would be a little less arrogant in my response.

There has to be staff changes on offense. My goodness, play calling and offensive line play have been pathetic all year. If I was as inept as Dickey and Dunn, you would not have to fire me. I would resign.

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The OLine and OC playcalling have sucked for much more than a year.
This year just magnified how it's deteriorating because of poor recruiting and poor coaching.

This is a business. This college football is the 800lb gorilla propping up most universities.
Coaches, most with families, know that they have to produce if they want to eat.
Of course, you can always get a job at UNLV or Georgia State if you want to continue to show mediocre to poor resutls.

The media, as brusk as they can be sometimes, is there to ask the Who, What, When, Where and Why. They ask the questions most of your are too thin skinned to ask, but you want to know.
You want coddling, then keep paying attention to the MSM's handling of any Democrat and especially that idiot in the White House.

Gundy needs to answer those questions. I'm of the opinion that Gundy is lazy and doesn't like to spend the effort to recruit or hire.
The Transfer Portal may be the best thing for Gundy actually.
But he's got to have better coaches. You can see the better coaches all around the Big 12. So, it can be done.

Crazed_Stallion said:

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Lol, what? All he had to say. Is I'm not going to talk about that at this time. We reflect on the season when we get back. Let's talk about today. A non answer. Instead he cried like a baby.

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For a little perspective, your guy:

Good stuff 🥴 pic.twitter.com/Q7P8QdWEiI

— 𝙋𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙡 𝙍𝙞𝙘𝙠 (@PistolRick) December 22, 2022

Duke Silver said:

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Crazed_Stallion said:

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Lol, what? All he had to say. Is I'm not going to talk about that at this time. We reflect on the season when we get back. Let's talk about today. A non answer. Instead he cried like a baby.

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For a little perspective, your guy:

Good stuff 🥴 pic.twitter.com/Q7P8QdWEiI

— 𝙋𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙡 𝙍𝙞𝙘𝙠 (@PistolRick) December 22, 2022

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Holy cow he reminds me of that crazy Coastal Carolina coach talking about cats and dogs

In my opinion, it was a very poor question to ask at that press conference. What did he expect to learn at that point? Yes, I plan to fire ______ and _______? The assistants had their families there at the bowl with the team all week hanging out together like a big family. We talked to the family of one of the assistants we have known for 20 plus years. You can't expect a head coach to comment on such a question asked at a dumb time. He could not have expected a substantive response.

Do we need to look at replacing some assistants? You bet we do.

Now, did Mike handle the question properly? No and he probably should issue a press release or something to do some damage control.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, nice one, you get a star Duke!!! LOL!

I agree, and I know several players who are not scholarship, that bleed Orange. Not the money or fame, just the heart to play for the program, as a team/family. Having money is great, but at the end of the day it's the family you have or the family you create around you. Sadly it takes some people too long to understand that. If these players want to treat this like a business, than the Programs needs to give them what they want, cut em lose when they don't perform. The same can be said about coaches too.

#GoPokes #LoyalAndTrue

OP members moving here or GoPokes. If Bartlett moved to California this is my guess of why OP folded. Bartlett was over the prior GoPokes web design management as well back in the old days.

I like OP for their baseball coverage as the other sites have limited baseball. Where is the Chairman now as he is the baseball guy I like to follow?

I agree with this post 1,000%. It's not fun getting tough questions but it comes with the job.

One note about the reporter who asked the question - I have met him and he is friends with my eldest son. He is a talented young journalist and strikes me as a fair person in addition to being "loyal and true." He presents OSU in a positive light whenever possible and I was much more taken aback by the response than the question.

Bartlett sold it over 5 years ago. He burned out

I stole this from an article I read on another sports blog today, so I give credit to whoever wrote it. On top of that, I'm just a rancher that lives 20 miles from any public utilities other than electricity. At any rate, the author was discussing people's desire for gundy to move on. I agree that he (gundy) is paid a significant amount of money to perform highly, but his following comment resonated with me: "I also know that the grass is always greener over the septic tank, so be careful what you wish for".

And they will know in due time. Immediately after the game isn't the time or place for him to break out his axe.

Honestly it's not a question to ever ask. Personnel decisions impact real live people and fans and attention seeking journalists should just wait until the changes are announced. They know they aren't going to find out until then so why do it?

Once it's announced ask away, until then ask something relevant about the game that you could get an answer for.

I don't completely agree with RA, but the national media folks are attacking RA now. That seems very unfair to me. They are attacking RA's writing of all things. RA is just doing his job. He isn't trying to win a Pulitzer. He is covering sports for crying out loud. Give RA a break. He has a duty here to defend Gundy. Nothing wrong with that.

Joe Khatib said:

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I notice you were on Orange power, what the heck happened to that site? Were they not paying the bills?

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Greg Bartlett had a post on twitter or instagram saying that they should have the problems worked out soon.

from looking at WHOIS, it appears that OP had a certificate that expired in November, my guess is that the DNS renewal fell through the cracks and now he's scrambling to restore it. Sometimes folks will grab up names that become available and then hold the name for ransom, but it doesn't appear that is the case here.

if any experts out there can decipher it better, the last registration entry was on Dec 20, so it looks like it's in progress.

https://whois.whoisxmlapi.com/lookup-report/7r2e4dlaRx

CaliforniaCowboy said:

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Joe Khatib said:

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I notice you were on Orange power, what the heck happened to that site? Were they not paying the bills?

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Greg Bartlett had a post on twitter or instagram saying that they should have the problems worked out soon.

from looking at WHOIS, it appears that OP had a certificate that expired in November, my guess is that the DNS renewal fell through the cracks and now he's scrambling to restore it. Sometimes folks will grab up names that become available and then hold the name for ransom, but it doesn't appear that is the case here.

if any experts out there can decipher it better, the last registration entry was on Dec 20, so it looks like it's in progress.

https://whois.whoisxmlapi.com/lookup-report/7r2e4dlaRx

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Looks like the problem was that greg.bartlett@okstate.edu no longer exists and the reminders to renew were not seen. sounds like sunday is the day

Duke Silver said:

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CaliforniaCowboy said:

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Joe Khatib said:

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I notice you were on Orange power, what the heck happened to that site? Were they not paying the bills?

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Greg Bartlett had a post on twitter or instagram saying that they should have the problems worked out soon.

from looking at WHOIS, it appears that OP had a certificate that expired in November, my guess is that the DNS renewal fell through the cracks and now he's scrambling to restore it. Sometimes folks will grab up names that become available and then hold the name for ransom, but it doesn't appear that is the case here.

if any experts out there can decipher it better, the last registration entry was on Dec 20, so it looks like it's in progress.

https://whois.whoisxmlapi.com/lookup-report/7r2e4dlaRx

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Looks like the problem was that greg.bartlett@okstate.edu no longer exists and the reminders to renew were not seen. sounds like sunday is the day

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ooops..... after 21 years at OSU, looks like he took a job at UC Davis in Sept and forgot to update the contact information on his OP website. I presume he'll get it back up, since he is an orange-blood through and through... his family name is on one of the OSU Buildings (The Bartlett Center for the Visual Arts)

GumbyFromPokeyLand said:

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MycatToby said:

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There was absolutely nothing wrong with that question. It's routine and Mike could have easily made into a non-story. I subscribe to this website because I think RA does a wonderful job in recruiting especially around the summer camps. But let's be real, he's little more than a Gundy mouthpiece and I do find it disappointing that he never asks any tonight questions of Mike. That last night is the basics of what journalism is supposed to look like, an attempt to hold someone accountable and understand their mindset as they are about to make decisions they are paid $7mil to make. Unfortunately, Mike reacted harshly because he's been able to skip basic questions for so long due to chummy nature he has with certain media (specifically RA), it's nice that someone is back to trying to hold Mike accountable. I wanted that question asked, it's not just that outlet asking, it's me, the fan, his stakeholder, asking through the media as my intermediary. So Gundy wasn't just telling PFB off, he's telling me off, which is not appreciated.

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Question. Does the IRS hold you accountable for your gains and losses in the market? Absolutely. Are you accountable for the tax consequences of your gains and losses 15 minutes after the market closes on Dec 31? Of course not. There's a reasonable and appropriate time to be held accountable for your market decisions and ultimate results. Just like there's a reasonable and appropriate time to hold a HC accountable for his decisions and ultimate results. 15 minutes after the last game of the season ain't the right time. The reporter, as you imply otherwise, should not get kudos for stupidity. But Gundy shouldn't get a pass for his tone. But he was spot on with his message.

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Bingo Gumby, it was more the tone and using the word a** during his answer that got peoples gander up! Just for a little history lesson after the total clunker we dropped at the end of the 2009 season with the shut out loss to OU and the really horrid performance against Ole Miss in the Cotton Bowl Berry Tramel and Bill Haisten asked Mike I the post game locker room about changes to the staff and him giving up play calling duties and he said there would be NO changes made! A week later he hires Dana Holgersen and Kasey Dunn and Haisten and Tramel were hopping mad about being lied to and wrote none to kind articles going after Mike about lying to them and he comes back at them and said AT THAT TIME AFTER THE GAME HE HAD NO PLANS TO MAKE CHANGES BUT THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER CHANGED HIS MIND! It was an LOL moment!!!

Thanks for the info, Cali! I figured they forgot to renew something, but I'm surprised it's taken this long to fix. Hopefully they'll have it back up and running soon.

I've missed having you on the other sites to argue with. I need to stop by this site more often.

aggie1 said:

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For those of you that think Gundy might be wrong or handled this incorrectly, check the Fox News Website.

Gundy has virtually 100% support from the commenters for taking up for his coaches and his players and the respect for them. That goes for me too. This was inappropriate to ask in this setting and the coach should never respond to these questions in the public. The public is tired of media sound bites. I sure am.

Pat Jones on the Animal says calling the reporter ignorant was a compliment to what he should have been called. He also says the guys calling the plays this year were the same ones that won 12 games last year and they just didn't turn stupid this year.

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It would be big time bad judgement for anyone to fill embolden by Fox News and Pat Jones ...neither have any credibility ..

You're correct on the latter. The former tells me all I need to know about you.

1slowpoke said:

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I still support Gundy for the restraint and controlling his anger and now the reporter understands the errors of judgment in asking that question. This reporter is lucky Gundy did not go off on him and due to history with this reporter the reporter deserved it. The media was informed prior to the press conference that Gundy would not address questions of players and staff, but he continued to asks the question.

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No one ...i mean no one ..under any circumstance or with any caveats ...deserves to be addressed in vulgar terms or threaten... Gundy by any measure showed much worse judgement than Marshall Scott asking a legit question ...albeit...poor timing .. i will be supremely disappointed in Weiberg/OSU Media Relations if an appropriate statement is not issued ...OSU Media Relations took a big time hit when Gundy issued his 'threat'...

gary121853 said:

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1slowpoke said:

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I still support Gundy for the restraint and controlling his anger and now the reporter understands the errors of judgment in asking that question. This reporter is lucky Gundy did not go off on him and due to history with this reporter the reporter deserved it. The media was informed prior to the press conference that Gundy would not address questions of players and staff, but he continued to asks the question.

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No one ...i mean no one ..under any circumstance or with any caveats ...deserves to be addressed in vulgar terms or threaten... Gundy by any measure showed much worse judgement than Marshall Scott asking a legit question ...albeit...poor timing .. i will be supremely disappointed in Weiberg/OSU Media Relations if an appropriate statement is not issued ...OSU Media Relations took a big time hit when Gundy issued his 'threat'...

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LOL, Karen.

gary121853 said:

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1slowpoke said:

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I still support Gundy for the restraint and controlling his anger and now the reporter understands the errors of judgment in asking that question. This reporter is lucky Gundy did not go off on him and due to history with this reporter the reporter deserved it. The media was informed prior to the press conference that Gundy would not address questions of players and staff, but he continued to asks the question.

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No one ...i mean no one ..under any circumstance or with any caveats ...deserves to be addressed in vulgar terms or threaten... Gundy by any measure showed much worse judgement than Marshall Scott asking a legit question ...albeit...poor timing .. i will be supremely disappointed in Weiberg/OSU Media Relations if an appropriate statement is not issued ...OSU Media Relations took a big time hit when Gundy issued his 'threat'...

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You obviously don't even know what he actually said

Duke Silver said:

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gary121853 said:

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1slowpoke said:

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I still support Gundy for the restraint and controlling his anger and now the reporter understands the errors of judgment in asking that question. This reporter is lucky Gundy did not go off on him and due to history with this reporter the reporter deserved it. The media was informed prior to the press conference that Gundy would not address questions of players and staff, but he continued to asks the question.

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No one ...i mean no one ..under any circumstance or with any caveats ...deserves to be addressed in vulgar terms or threaten... Gundy by any measure showed much worse judgement than Marshall Scott asking a legit question ...albeit...poor timing .. i will be supremely disappointed in Weiberg/OSU Media Relations if an appropriate statement is not issued ...OSU Media Relations took a big time hit when Gundy issued his 'threat'...

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You obviously don't even know what he actually said

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I was just wondering how "OSU media relations taking a big time hit" manifests itself? A boycott?

Unbelievable.

LS1Z28 said:

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Thanks for the info, Cali! I figured they forgot to renew something, but I'm surprised it's taken this long to fix. Hopefully they'll have it back up and running soon.

I've missed having you on the other sites to argue with. I need to stop by this site more often.

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Thanks.

but dad gum it, I don't argue, I present facts. I have nothing to argue about

I will defend my team against the defamers, but that's not arguing, I use facts to make a point.

but thanks again.

(that's wasn't arguing with you, was it)?