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Boynton and Oklahoma State Fight Disappointment and Go Back to the Future in NIT

March 13, 2023
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STILLWATER – It took a few minutes to get the disappointment questions over with. Not making it into the NCAA Tournament doesn’t sit easy in Stillwater, Okla. and it is absolutely frustrating when you’ve won eight games, nine with the Bedlam win in the Big 12 Tournament, in the toughest conference in America. 

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‘”That usually is a magic number unless you are Oklahoma State,” Boynton said in pontificating off the first question. “Because I think we won eight games in my first-year (as head coach) and came up short as well. We just have to keep getting better.”

That is the chin up and looking forward attitude the Cowboys need as the top seed in the NIT. I get it. It is the one tournament that no team wants to be the top seed in, but when you just miss out on the “big dance,” right or wrong, it is the only choice. 

Because of spring break and the fact that Oklahoma State is hosting the NCAA Wrestling Championships at the BOK Center in Tulsa, personnel is at a premium and students and fans are mostly out of town, so the Cowboys will hit the road to Youngstown, Ohio and the Youngstown State Penguins for their first-round game.

“This is still an opportunity to keep playing, play in another tournament, and have an opportunity to play for a championship,” Boynton said of Wednesday (March 15) night. ““I know there are some logistical challenges around here this week and we have a lot of staff helping to run the (NCAA) wrestling championship and obviously, the women, congratulations to them on a heckuva season and wish them well on their time up in Bloomington. We have a tall task in front of us, a really good team that is going to be excited for us to come and play on their home court.”

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The Beeghly Center at Youngstown State.

Oh yeah, the court. The Penguins (24-9/15-5) play on Beeghly Court, an all-purpose building that also has a competitive pool and diving well. The basketball portion of the building seats 6,500. Hey, that is what old Gallagher Hall held before the roof was lifted and the “old lady: as whe was often called became larger and modern Gallagher-Iba Arena. The Cowboys players will get a chance to go back to the future with a game in an atmosphere similar to what Bryant Reeves, Desmond Mason, Doug Gottlieb, and even their coach, Eddie Sutton, played in back in the day at Gallagher Hall.  

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Old Gallagher Hall at Oklahoma State.

“It’s a chance to continue on as a competitor in what I imagine will be a pretty good environment.,” Boynton said of Beeghly Arena. “They are in a little different situation.”

There is a common opponent. Oklahoma State on the road beat Oakland (Mich.) by 29 in a 91-62 romp on the road. Youngstown State plays in the Horizon League and beat Okaland twice (by 16 points and then by four). The Penguins, loaded with shooters and shooting almost 37 percent from three-point range split with the Horizon’s NCAA qualifier Northern Kentucky in the regular season before losing a second time in the Horizon Tournament.

Now the Cowboys need to beat Youngstown State to help push the disappointment away. Boynton said the team did not watch the NCAA Selection Show together, but they watched and they practiced Monday and talked about it.

“Disappointment is a real thing, but it is also reality that we looked like a lot of others teams and trying to get 12 people to come to a consensus … You know all the votes didn’t go our way on that deal,” he said. 

Now he wants to help his team change the inevitable narrative for teams like his this time of the year.

“I don’t want these kids to feel like failures, because they’re not,” Boynton said. 

They will have a chance to prove it in a similar environment to where past Cowboys teams did a lot of proving.

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Boynton and Oklahoma State Fight Disappointment and Go Back to the Future in NIT

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Darth Vader
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"That usually is a magic number unless you are Oklahoma State," Boynton said in pontificating off the first question. "Because I think we won eight games in my first-year (as head coach) and came up short as well. We just have to keep getting better."

I'm over-reacting to this and I don't give a crap. This man grates on my ever-loving last nerve! Hey coach, do you honestly not understand dosage makes the poison? or are you just being a public victim? Do you honestly think the committee was out to get you personally or Oklahoma State? Our wins were not very impressive!! Combine that with bad losses against teams we should've beat and many blowout/mostly non-competitive losses and you end up with a team that DID NOT deserve an NCAA tournament bid!

We won 8 regular season conference games. 4 came against ou (10th place) and tech (9th place) when tech was missing multiple good players - sorry coach, this is NOT an accomplishment. Let's be honest, we easily could've lost one or both games against Tech. This means half of our wins came against the literal two worst teams in the conference. We squeaked out a win at home against TCU when they were missing 2 of their best, if not best, players - could've easily lost this one too. We won a squeaker early against WVU (8th place and blew us out at their place), and two gutsy wins against 6th place ISU that I give us a lot of credit for. Then we beat the last place team again in the tournament and got destroyed by Texas again. Overall though, our "streak" was fool's gold and our wins were not impressive. Way too small dosage of impressive wins with an overdose of losses and bad losses - it's not complicated.

I really hope I'm wrong about Boynton, I really do. I hope he can find a great Jr or Sr transfer point guard to come in next year and lead us. I really hope this freshman class is the real deal and they light it up next year. I hope he can get us going and win. We can't afford to keep going through coaches, paying buyouts, turning the program over, and starting over. Outside of bubble talk, our program is irrelevant. That is a fact. Let that sink in. This is not Cowboy basketball. It is BS - utter and complete BS, and I'm tired of it.
NJAggie
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Well I'm really in the middle on the NCAA. I think we had enough to be put in, and enough to be left out. Those last 10-8 teams are never clear cut, and rules are applied how the committee wishes to apply them.

I do think we need Boynton to restaff somewhat. His assistants don't seem to be able to teach basics and get the team to shoot and not throw the ball away with long telegraphed passes. I'm sorry those are things you used to have beat into you in Jr High so I expect D1 players to have that in their game already. Do we need to go out and bring in guys that can coach the basics and teach these kids how to run an offense? Boynton is fine as the face and recruiter, but he may need a staff that can coach mechanics and offense.
PaloDuroPoke
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I was wrong. I'll admit it. Coach Boyton can't get it done. Go jack threes in NAIA. Continue to allow that and let Thompson play point and turn it over. That's not coaching. Continue to do what's got you beat all year. I can't defend it anymore. Embarrassing effort
RodeoPoke
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if we can get a body on Cohill and get Cisse and Boone involved we can still pull this out... we need to dominate inside and quit putting up failed treys
RodeoPoke
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nice finish.... 3 guys with double doubles, and at least 4 guys in double digit scoring.

Williams, Smith and Cisse took them apart inside

back home against Eastern Washington?
PaloDuroPoke
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Someone got ahold of the dumb shooting at half. Maybe we had a little coaching going on after all. Trek Smith has been our best player the last 6 games no doubt. Cisse showed up second half
RodeoPoke
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PaloDuroPoke said:

Someone got ahold of the dumb shooting at half. Maybe we had a little coaching going on after all. Trek Smith has been our best player the last 6 games no doubt. Cisse showed up second half

one of the radio announcers, I think it was Holcomb, said, "it looks like OSU has finally worn them down in the middle"... which is what should be expected since they only played 2 guys that were listed at 6-7 and 6-8.... I'm not sure how much "coaching" went into it. Holcomb seemed to suggest it was inevitable due to our superior athleticism across the board.,
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