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Bowman and Gordon Better Together and Better Now Than Ever

August 23, 2024
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STILLWATER – Alan Bowman had a sharp day throwing the football as the Cowboys went through a three-hour practice that may be the last really strenuous camp-type practice. It was hot and the team went through a lot of snaps, some vs. scout teams and some versus each other. The defense played well overall too on Friday. Running back Ollie Gordon II had a good day with limited reps. It is those two, Gordon Ii and Bowman that are the centerpiece of this piece.

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Bowman and Gordon Better Together and Better Now Than Ever

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Orangeheart72
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Long term fans know Gundy is not a fan of turnovers. We recall his Pat Jones story of what put him into a starting role as a freshman and the Big XII record Gundy held for passing attempts without an interception. Most of us probably think this qb room has 2 or 3 guys not named Bowman who would have been welcome starters in the last 60 years. So based on all that and Bowman's 15/14 touchdown to interception ratio, it's obvious Gundy and Rattay see something about Bowman that has him so clearly in the qb driver's seat. Perhaps it's his freshman performance at Tech and the hope his freshman, conference record magic strikes again. Whatever it is that makes Gundy fairly comfortable with 15/14, (but still the returning passing yards leader in Big XII), here's hoping AB knocks it out of the park this season.
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Orangeheart72 said:

. So based on all that and Bowman's 15/14 touchdown to interception ratio, it's obvious Gundy and Rattay see something about Bowman that has him so clearly in the qb driver's seat.

maybe they saw some of this.....

... Three 101 straight pass attempts without an interception from October 6 through October 21 to rank as the 15th-longest streak in school history ...

.. Despite taking about 35% of the offensive snaps through the first three games, he finished second in the Big 12 in passing yards per game and led the conference in attempts and completions

... Averaged 285.9 passing yards per game in Big 12 play, had five 300-yard passing games and produced the seventh-highest single-season passing total in school history with 3,460 yards, which also ranked No. 15 in the FBS for the year

.... Had the third-highest passing yards total against Power Five opponents in the FBS with 3,338 yards, which was also first in the Big 12

... His 2,823 passing yards against conference opponents ranked as the fourth-most in the FBS and most in the Big 12

... Completed 145 passes for at least 10 yards to rank as the most in the Big 12 and seventh-most in the FBS

... Ranked among the FBS top 25 with 21.71 completions per game

... His best games of the year according to ESPN's Total QBR metric came in the wins over Texas A&M (93.4) and Oklahoma (93.2), both of which ranked among the top 10 in the FBS for the week

... His Texas Bowl performance against Texas A&M included season-bests with 402 passing yards and 34 completions, both of which also marked the most allowed all season by the SEC's best team in total defense entering the game, and a pair of touchdowns to Rashod Owens

... The game also made him the ninth player in OSU history to pass for 400 yards in a game and his 34 completions tied for the seventh-highest single-game total in OSU history

... In the Bedlam win over Oklahoma he passed for 334 yards with no interceptions, ran for a 13-yard touchdown on his only carry and made a touchdown-saving tackle out of bounds following a turnover on a trick play

... His other 300-yard outings included 348 yards and two touchdowns at Houston, 336 yards and two touchdowns against Kansas, and 321 yards against BYU

... Passed for more than 200 yards in all 11 games he played as the full-time starter ... Added a rushing touchdown at Iowa State
Orangeheart72
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Good stuff RodeoPoke. Where did you find all that? Would love to see Bowman get his dream shot at the NFL or even CFL with Corndog!
CowboyKip
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He will be a really good QB if he can just get his TD/INT ratio up to 3 or 4. He's already doing everything else.
Cdub234
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While the # of INT was way too high, placing such importance on his TD/INT ratio doesn't make a lot of sense with the way we like to run the ball inside the 10, handing it off to the best RB in the nation who had the 2nd most rushing TD's in D1. Couldn't care less who scores the TD, just don't turn the ball over.
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I'm sorry, but I probably couldn't name 5 of the 14 qb's that bested him in the longest streak w/o an interception. Give me hard data. Not a bunch of stats that at any given point for a college qb would be easily attainable. I honestly hope he has an amazing year. However, he throws off his back foot often. The vast majority of his balls are 50/50 balls (get your mind out of the gutter). His pocket presence isn't anything to write home about. Again, I hope he has a great year. Contrary to Orange, unless he's granted an 8th year of eligibility, this year will be bon voyage for his qb career. As someone on here likes to say, Next man up!!
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Orangeheart72 said:

Good stuff RodeoPoke. Where did you find all that? Would love to see Bowman get his dream shot at the NFL or even CFL with Corndog!
okstate.com roster bio

https://okstate.com/sports/football/roster/alan-bowman/11729
RodeoPoke
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Eclectic said:

I'm sorry, but I probably couldn't name 5 of the 14 qb's that bested him in the longest streak w/o an interception. Give me hard data. Not a bunch of stats that at any given point for a college qb would be easily attainable. I honestly hope he has an amazing year. However, he throws off his back foot often. The vast majority of his balls are 50/50 balls (get your mind out of the gutter). His pocket presence isn't anything to write home about. Again, I hope he has a great year. Contrary to Orange, unless he's granted an 8th year of eligibility, this year will be bon voyage for his qb career. As someone on here likes to say, Next man up!!
all of that is likely true to an extent....

but I will also remind you that 1) he had not started a game in 3 seasons, 2) he played sparingly and sporatically in the first 3 rotation games (how many INTs in that mess?) 3) the WRs were an issue in early games, esp after Stribling went out, 4) the OLine had some new faces, and position changes (birmingham back from injury tried at LT but was moved to guard when it was apparent he wasn't quite ready), 5) some of those INTs simply were not his fault, with guys running wrong routes, tipped balls, etc.

I'm just pointing out that despite all the things that you listed, he still compiled an impressive list of statistics, some of the conference honors that ARE NOT easy to obtain.

This year most of those factors probably affecting INTs, that you listed do not exist this season, and one does have to wonder if throwing off balance and off the back foot was not out of shear desperation do to offensive breakdowns and bad routes.

I am not suggesting that Bowman is one of the top QBs that we've ever had, but he is plenty good enough to keep this team producing at a high level.
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Cdub234 said:

While the # of INT was way too high, placing such importance on his TD/INT ratio doesn't make a lot of sense with the way we like to run the ball inside the 10, handing it off to the best RB in the nation who had the 2nd most rushing TD's in D1. Couldn't care less who scores the TD, just don't turn the ball over.

we fumbled 14 times last year, but only lost 5

yep... no turnovers please!

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