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Excuse, Reality, Lament, or All of the Above from Head Coach Mike Gundy

November 19, 2024
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STILLWATER – I’m not big into excuses, never have been. You play a football season the way it lays out. Some seasons you have crazy good luck and then others you have to fight through adversity after adversity.

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Excuse, Reality, Lament, or All of the Above from Head Coach Mike Gundy

2,792 Views | 20 Replies | Last: 10 days ago by AustinCowboy88
OctaviusRex
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The part I don't understand is, you hire Bryan Nardo to run the 3-3-5 and two guys get injured (Oliver isn't even a LB) and then you have to completely switch to the 4-2-5 because you don't have enough LBs? I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert on X's and O's, but isn't that a bit extreme to have to completely abandon a scheme you hired a DC to run because of two injuries?
CProc7
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So when Martin and Oliver went down we went from maybe the 120th worst defense to the worst defense? Not too big of a difference
OctaviusRex
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Exactly, Arkansas was still on pace to rack up 600 yards with those guys there. Same with the CCG, UCF, Houston, BYU, and South Alabama last year. Lots of data points that injuries are not the reason the defense is last in FBS

And if two injuries mean you have to overhaul your whole system, then that's a pretty damning indictment on your roster construction
MidTownPoke
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CProc7 said:

So when Martin and Oliver went down we went from maybe the 120th worst defense to the worst defense? Not too big of a difference


This is exactly why the injury excuse is just that: an excuse.
RodeoPoke
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we need to pay whatever we need to pay for some top corners, and then get back to a 4-3 front.

PedroPistola
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It is always easy to tell in the pokesreport comment section who has played D1 football and who hasn't.
Orangeade71
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Robert is guilty of overestimating the talent on the team. Pumping Kirkland every week, and Clay not being as good as was advertised. The online was a complete miss. Most of them failed to live up to the hype.
RodeoPoke
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LOL - everybody is an expert.

OctaviusRex
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It should also be easy to tell that if your results suck at work AND you're treating people like crap and telling them to stop *****ing about those poor results, people generally are going to be unhappy about that.

I would think a man smart enough to earn nearly $8M would understand that.

I hate cancel culture and I want nothing more than for Mike Gundy to show a little humility and not have to be forced to make whatever changes are necessary for the program to improve. he's an excellent coach when he has the right people around him, as is any good HC. I also don't want him to continue down this road, digging his heels in and end up with a Pat Jones situation where there's bitterness on both sides and we end up back looking like 1990s OSU after his 20 years of unprecedented success. that's why it's incredibly frustrating to watch. I WANT Mike Gundy to leave a great legacy and continue to have a great relationship that's mutually beneficial to him and the university.

The PWAP President said it perfectly today in the Tulsa World. It makes no sense at all to alienate the donors and fanbase. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

All my negativity is based on the fact that I don't think Mike wants or cares to change, but I would absolutely love to be proven wrong.
RodeoPoke
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OctaviusRex said:



All my negativity is based on the fact that I don't think Mike wants or cares to change, but I would absolutely love to be proven wrong.

you're just whining now. Stop already.
OctaviusRex
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I'm still waiting for you to provide a single counterpoint for anything I've or anyone with any input has said. All you've done is call anyone who disagrees with you stupid. So your words ring hollow. Put me and half the posters here on ignore if you don't like it.
RodeoPoke
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OctaviusRex said:

I'm still waiting for you to provide a single counterpoint for anything I've or anyone with any input has said. All you've done is call anyone who disagrees with you stupid. So your words ring hollow. Put me and half the posters here on ignore if you don't like it.
waaah...

SMH
OctaviusRex
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LOL ok Gundy. You are the only smart person here I guess. Just keep digging your head in the sand there slugger. Everything's fine, nothing to see here.

Also irony is ironic since you're crying about my posts.


https://tulsaworld.com/sports/college/osu/bill-haisten-why-would-you-even-say-that-osu-fund-raising-was-damaged-by-gundy/article_de1e9cc0-a767-11ef-b271-67e6e991893b.html
GiantStallion56
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This team is booty cheeks.

Blame whoever you want, it doesn't matter. But the team sucks and it's not because they lost two players on defense.
OctaviusRex
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Agreed, and it's asinine to act like that's not the case
PedroPistola
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And those so called experts with a guilty conscience, always double down on how right they are. It is hilarious!
OctaviusRex
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Sound like anyone else you know on doubling down on how right they are? Cough…cough…gundy

I'd say the PWAP President is more of an expert on the state of things than you or me, let's see what he has to say.

https://tulsaworld.com/sports/college/osu/bill-haisten-why-would-you-even-say-that-osu-fund-raising-was-damaged-by-gundy/article_de1e9cc0-a767-11ef-b271-67e6e991893b.html
RodeoPoke
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OctaviusRex said:

Sound like anyone else you know on doubling down? Cough…cough…gundy

I'd say the PWAP President is more of an expert on the state of things than you or me, let's see what he has to say.

https://tulsaworld.com/sports/college/osu/bill-haisten-why-would-you-even-say-that-osu-fund-raising-was-damaged-by-gundy/article_de1e9cc0-a767-11ef-b271-67e6e991893b.html

that is the 2nd time that you've linked a PPV site. Sorry, no subscribie

and, for the record, I would place more faith in people knowing to ignore silly things like that, and keep on the course to greatness. The PWAP President is relatively new, and has a few who claim to be bigshots in his ear.

Haisten just likes too stir the pot for clicks on his articles.

OSU is fine. Relax.
OctaviusRex
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Hey man, I linked it twice just because I was waiting for someone to actually reply with anything substantial. And you did, so kudos to you. I'll take what you said into consideration.

I am too high strung about this, I'll be the first to admit, but I do genuinely care.
AustinCowboy88
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OSU is last! Dead last in the conference! Seems like we are crushing relaxed!
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